Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez

[bugsyblue]

It would help everyone more if you read what I wrote and responded to that, rather than taking what I wrote, getting it totally wrong and creating an argument against the straw man.

I think I've got it now. The world is equal, there's no discrimination - except against the poor white man - and the whole BLM movement is borne out of some woke lefty conspiracy. That it?

 

[MillionMilesAway]

I'm pretty certain that a 65 year old bloke calling a 30 year old woman a fucking woman in professional surroundings would be viewed as misogynistic.

Although it may depend on context, I don't think "woman" and "dick" are equal in terms of offensiveness and sexism.

 

[BobKowalski]

Which woman is more likely to beat Trump than Biden?

Who do you want as nominee?

None. Because they are women. Not because they are less qualified, or less competent. The one overriding quality Biden has in his favour is his sex, his skin colour and his age. No one was taking any chances so no women, no blacks, no youngsters, just a mirror image of Trump. That is old white male privilege.

 

[Ban-jani]

Haha, clueless. I'll explain once and once only. You're on your own after that.

"woman" originally meant a female dog but has been used to refer to women in a derogatory fashion since the 15th century, according to the Oxford English Dictionary.

It was originally used against women deemed to be too sexually active because female dogs give birth to many puppies. During the age of women’s suffrage in the early 20th century, "woman” became the word for women who defied the patriarchy and became doubly loaded with negative connotations. Damn those uppity women who love sex and want basic equality!

“woman” isn't just an insult because it means "promiscuous" and "uppity" - it's also an insult because for the user it means “woman.”

As for women using it as well (I cannot believe I'm having to explain this to you), the word “woman” is for women and women’s mouths only, as they're targeted group of the slur. If she chooses to reclaim it, that is each woman’s decision for herself. It's not for men.

You know full well that the word woman has taken on different meanings and that in 2020 it means a woman who’s acting like a dick head.

Look at how many times Thatcher is called a woman, is that due to her overriding the patriarchy?

Is it fuck, the most common insult to a female today.

You’re trying to create discrimination that isn’t there you sad individual.

 

[Ban-jani]

I think I've got it now. The world is equal, there's no discrimination - except against the poor white man - and the whole BLM movement is borne out of some woke lefty conspiracy. That it?

I’m not bothering with you now, we had a reasonable conversation going but you’ve descended into the ridiculous, first by getting what I said completely wrong and now enhancing your straw man approach.

Enjoy the rest of your day.

 

[Ban-jani]

None. Because they are women. Not because they are less qualified, or less competent. The one overriding quality Biden has in his favour is his sex, his skin colour and his age. No one was taking any chances so no women, no blacks, no youngsters, just a mirror image of Trump. That is old white male privilege.

Fucking hell Bob you’re gone aren’t you, absolutely gone.

Did Obama not exist?

This is the first white male candidate for the Dems in 12 years and they spent 8 of those years in power.

 

[bugsyblue]

I’m not bothering with you now, we had a reasonable conversation going but you’ve descended into the ridiculous, first by getting what I said completely wrong and now enhancing your straw man approach.

Enjoy the rest of your day.

Debate requires equal well-rounded arguments. You just seem hell bent on points scoring and getting angry.

 

[Ban-jani]

Debate requires equal well-rounded arguments. You just seem hell bent on points scoring and getting angry.

As I’ve said, I was being reasonable, even highlighting things you said that were correct.

You’ve completely changed the tone of the debate and I cannot be arsed.

 

[BobKowalski]

It’s not everyone Bob.

Can you point out which part of my post was unclear?

You are the one complaining no one understood ’basic fucking English’. They do. And your posts come across as embittered and hostile on matters of race and gender. The only section of the population you seem to champion is ’white working class’. Not even ’working class’ but ’white working class’. You repeatedly reject the idea of institutional racism or gender inequality or even the idea it could exist.

So what does that tell us about you?

 

[Ban-jani]

You are the one complaining no one understood ’basic fucking English’. They do. And your posts come across as embittered and hostile on matters of race and gender. The only section of the population you seem to champion is ’white working class’. Not even ’working class’ but ’white working class’. You repeatedly reject the idea of institutional racism or gender inequality or even the idea it could exist.

So what does that tell us about you?

He misunderstood my post, as you do, that’s not my fault, he knows he misunderstood and I’ve explained it to him again. Neither of you have pointed out which part of the post was unclear, which means you’re likely doing it on purpose.

We disagree Bob but don’t insinuate I’m a racist or sexist.

Do it again and I’ll just put you ignore, who knows, it may save me some brain cells.