Alexis Sanchez

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All this nonsense about the rags trying to inflate the market to render us incapable of competing is to me getting it the wrong way round. It is actually us that have forced them to spend stupid amounts on an ageing player with no resale value to stop him coming to us.
We've got them on the run.
 
All this nonsense about the rags trying to inflate the market to render us incapable of competing is to me getting it the wrong way round. It is actually us that have forced them to spend stupid amounts on an ageing player with no resale value to stop him coming to us.
We've got them on the run.
You are bang on, goalmole. They did it with Falcao as well and it didn't end well.
 
A lot of people seem to think this I am far from sure. If he is instrumental in turning the Rags season around it will be looked upon as a major coup. Ifwe start to struggle in the next few months it will be viewed as a major reason why. The wages/tax involved will be meaningless and totally overshadowed by events on the pitch. The City board have made a major decision and only time will tell us if it was the right one.
He's been at Arsenal for the last four years and he didn't lift them to extraordinary heights but he's going to the rags and they're going to win everything?
Why the fuck is everyone panicking. It's almost embarrassing.
Pull yourselves together, people. They can't buy everyone and neither can we. They've undoubtedly strengthened and so will we in the summer. We're in a good place, just enjoy.
 
This whole saga (sic) is perfectly in line for us. Utd laughed at us for overspending to get to 'near' their level after the takeover and now they are reduced by doing exactly the same. Keep the force moving forward, its gorgeous
 
I don't think we followed up on this Summer's interest until the injury to Jesus, and then when we found out the terms required, the interest ended there and then.

I'm thinking along the same lines as you.
But I think that as we have been flying without Sanchez we saw no need for him this January and "arrogantly" thought we would pick him up in the summer for his signing on fee
If we really wanted him in Jan we should have had this boxed off at the start of December, which would also have given Arsenal time to source a replacement

The injury to Jesus left us very fragile up top so as soon as that happened at the start of this month we made an offer, but Arsenal knew we were desperate and wouldn't buckle as they expected him to go for free at the end of the season. Also Sanchez and his agent held us to ransom and we didn't cough up
 
We could go in for your hero Bale, whom you were crying to sign a fair few times at various stages in the past. As a matter of fact you just chuck whoever seems to be flavour of the month out as suggestions for us to buy at whatever the cost to send out a message to our rivals. Grow up.

Get off your high horse you bellend, Bale is and has always to me been an exceptional player, hence I've wanted us to sign him for a while. If you'd rather we didn't improve the team as much as possible with our supposed wealth which apoarently should at least match Utd's then fine, your opinion and in my eyes low ambition. Wanting the best for my club does not indicate a need to 'grow up', just a different set of values to yours. But thanks for coming.
 
Well in some world, perhaps Arsenal would sell a player to us, without inviting bids from other clubs.

In the real one however, it would make no sense.

As the agent involved in the deal has told you, that this was worked out before the transfer window opened, then you have the choice of believing the worst about City, or accepting that perhaps Utd have spunked a fair bit of next years budget, on a 29 year old who hasn't been playing particularly well.

Or you can choose to admire them & assume City fucked up, Sanchez agent was just taking the piss out of Mino & Utd with no intetion of seeing it through, when really his client was just waiting for City, & it's all Txiki's fault, instead.
I don't think it's quite as black or white as you paint. It's not necessarily "admiring them" or "City f*cked up/Txiki's fault", but just because people represent our club doesn't mean we do everything perfectly.

Some posters on BM, seem close to bullying others, to tow "the party line", where we shouldn't debate or learn lessons, when things don't work out as we hoped.

In this case, we wanted Sanchez, (our preference was in summer, and we put in a low bid) , Sanchez wanted to leave Arsenal this window, (his first preference was City).
United were desperate to improve their squad with quality players and they have secured him with a financial package we were not prepared to match. They are driving up the price of players, I don't like it, but it's a market.

If we had the benefit of hindsight, would we have done things differently? I believe we would, but we shall never know.
 
There is no bitterness in this thread at all.....




I give this comment a swales look of dissaproval

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So if we lose out (through our own choice) but end tge month with fred and seri possibly both signed will we be happy?

I would be
 
Ask yourself this Alexis all the bids been equal who would you join? A team desperately trying to keep up playing shit negative football with a mard arse manager or a team flying high in 4 competitions with a brilliant manager and young team desined by all who have seen them to do great things.
 
The money has unquestionably spoken and dictated this transfer, however, similar to the paper thin 'argument' that United would be top if we weren't having such a historic season we've wrecked the curve on the perception of this deal

Sanchez immediately improves and strengthens our nearest and direct rival, that much is undeniable. It's also not a backwards or sideways step for him; it's a step forward leaving Arsenal for United as it stands. They won't be devoid of challenging or even winning trophies.

However, as much as it was ten/fifteen years ago that moving to United was the step up for a footballer and that that could be considered the ceiling for someone, there's also a (considerable) step up from United now; of which we are included.

When I say we've "wrecked the curve" what I'm trying to say is that if we weren't interested in Sanchez, moving from Arsenal to United wouldn't be a move that someone could use to question his motives really. But like Keown has said his decision hasn't been based upon what's best for his career because, ultimately, we did want him and he talked himself out of it. That's an undeniable fact for even the most ignorant of United fans.

The reasonable ones, if there are any, will accept that not only are we a level ahead and as much as a signing like this helps to try and counter that the only way they're achievable is by throwing obscene money at them in compensation for the two club's comparative success'.

Which leads to those articles about Ed Woodward that claim he believes he's "embarrassed" ourselves and Chelsea by getting this deal done, that United fans think they've gotten one over on us and put us in our place. When in reality all he's done is walked up to Sanchez, his agent and the Arsenal board, lined them all up, dropped to his knees and made like a circus seal. There's been no guile, no cunning, no skill in this from him/them just "What do you want.. OK done!".

They have no sustaining recruitment model, they're just focused on getting the most retweets and selling a few shirts so they're happy to enter into these auctions and accept that the reason player's sign for them these days is because they've bid the most. Whereas we're signing players who want to play for us and buy into what we do.

Sure what will happen next season when De Gea's contract is up? He'll be wanting MORE than Sanchez, he is United essentially. Any player they sign from here on in, let alone renew, will use that as the benchmark because as a club they've shown they'll pay it. They may be a cash cow but they've opened a can of worms and the expense of a 29 year old who'll improve them in the short term but still leave them lingering behind us.

We thought we had that with Sanchez but he's shown himself to be nothing short of a whore basically. Which, fair play to him, if you're happy to accept crazy money then why not? If you're happy to spend crazy money then why not? Just don't take any moral high-ground and give it the big "I am" when in reality they've just willingly bent over and taken a rodgering as they watch us from 12 points back.
At the end of the day the Rags have stolen a player from under our noses and go into the rest of the season much stronger and we will be weaker. You can dress it up in as much prose as you like but that fact is hard to refute. Hopefully it will be redressed in the summer but for the rest of the season we are disadvantaged and it is just as well that that lead is 12 points.
 
At the end of the day the Rags have stolen a player from under our noses and go into the rest of the season much stronger and we will be weaker. You can dress it up in as much prose as you like but that fact is hard to refute. Hopefully it will be redressed in the summer but for the rest of the season we are disadvantaged and it is just as well that that lead is 12 points.
How are we weaker?
 
Get off your high horse you bellend, Bale is and has always to me been an exceptional player, hence I've wanted us to sign him for a while. If you'd rather we didn't improve the team as much as possible with our supposed wealth which apoarently should at least match Utd's then fine, your opinion and in my eyes low ambition. Wanting the best for my club does not indicate a need to 'grow up', just a different set of values to yours. But thanks for coming.
Bale lol, are you Welsh per chance?
 
At the end of the day the Rags have stolen a player from under our noses and go into the rest of the season much stronger and we will be weaker. You can dress it up in as much prose as you like but that fact is hard to refute. Hopefully it will be redressed in the summer but for the rest of the season we are disadvantaged and it is just as well that that lead is 12 points.

Pfft
 
That Sanchez improves United is true, but misses the point. They have plenty of money to splash around, they're going to buy good players. Here they've got one, but overpaid hugely, and tied up that money well into his thirties. If they don't spend it on him, they'll spend it on someone else, just as City will.

But no cash supply is endless, and Sanchez directly reduces their other options, in a club who have a number of upcoming replacements needed. That's why it being so expensive matters, and that's why City saying no matters. Who cares if they want to claim they stole him from under our noses, it might not be the fans' money, but they still see it spent on someone, and United would have dumped the £180 million tied up in this on one or two others.
 
It was not even clever. If we really had offered £500 K in the Summer he would have signed. So how does that even make sense?

If any United fan is deluded enough that he waited for United where were they on the last day of the Summer transfer deadline when but for Wegner messing up he would have signed for much less as he told all his mates he was doing.

Pity their fans do not have the IQ of their wage bill.
 
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