Alexis Sanchez

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Options...

All big clubs need a plethora of options as you've got to factor injuries and suspensions. The more I think about San he's the more I'm desperate for it to happen. He's one of the best players in the world, and it's a massive statement and coup if the club pull it off.
 
Sanchez to be fair I'm a bit ambivalent about. I'm annoyed we are trying to get him now instead of when I suggested it back during the FFP squeeze. :( So I'm a bit annoyed at the love he is getting now, when most thought I was dumb to want to improve on the best attack 3 years ago.

That said, unless Aguero's current performance since the GJ injury has convinced Pep he is better with both Aguero and GJ starting together, I think Aguero will peace out.

There is no way a 30 goals a season top striker in the history of the prem is going to be rotating starts at 28. I mean folks who think that will happen are in fantasy land.

Either Pep finds a way to start both or Aguero is going to leave. Based on how GJ played early on, I believe Pep will start him next season unless something major disrupts his progression.

So knowing that, the only way Aguero stays is if he starts both of them. I have a way that works by the way. With Sane and Sterling at Wing back and we can even have Sanchez if we get him or Debryune if we don't and GJ flanking Aguero in a 343 system. Or a 352 system with Debryune and Silva playing their normal roles.

Their are workable permutations. But don't be fooled, that's the only way I see Aguero staying. He will not stay as a rotation guy. That simply will not happen.

agree again with it all....

I think KDB needs to be looking over his shoulder a bit after the season he has had recently....he aint been anywhere near his potential but that hopefully is just temporary. HIs passing from central has been poor (with one or two absolutely outstanding moments (the goal vs arsenal being the most recent) but some of his more basic stuff has been lacking and defensively he is really poor
 
it does show you what the team would be losing however.....as I've said before there are others in the squad that need to make a huge step up in terms of goal scoring even now and that would be emphasised even more if Kun was to go. He is the best and most natural finisher we have. The rest pale by comparison (with he exception of GJ who we cannot compare either way a present as he has only played 3 games - though he looks amazingly promising).

Silva - scoring goals is his only weakness. Pep himself has said this but its been obvious to us all for a while....
Sterling - finishing is the area he needs to improve but he isn't a natural finisher and I don't think (just my personal opinion) he ever will be
KDB - he looks to eb the player that is struggling most with Peps system and his performances this season have been way under par. He is goal contribution this season is well below what we need it to be
Navas - hahahahaha - he is off anyway
Sane - looks a better option outwide...misssed a sitter at weekend and has missed one or two others as well....not a problem however as he has time to improve and he looks like he could develop ala fake ronaldo

So if Kun goes and we bring in Sanchez...his scoring would have to go beyond what he has ever achieved before and all the rest would have to hugely step up from what they normally do as well. We would also lose Yaya's goals (not really been boring that much this season but in previous season he has always contributed well)

Lose Kun and we potentially lose the vast majority of our goal scoring and if that is the way Pep is going to win games/cups/leagues, the other players will have to take huge strides forwards in providing what they are not at present.

It's just not dropping for you Simon, sorry bud but it's very shortsighted.... we actually score on average more goals when he is out of the team. He's the greatest striker in terms of scoring ability, however, he actually restricts our potency in this current system.... I saw in the first 5 minutes of GJ in this team what we are setting out to do, that's not to say it's an exact science, hence we are looking at other options in the inevitable event his form dips because of age...
 
I've already posted that Pep expects more from his strikers than just putting it in the onion bag, check out the stats below, it's just a snapshot and an insight to the two players on the defensive side of their game, the stats are taken from this seasons Premier League games:

Sergio Aguero
Apperances: 25
Goals: 16
Tackles: 14
Interceptions: 3

Alexis Sanchez
Apperances: 30
Goals: 18
Tackles: 41
Interceptions: 18

The stats above show you Sergio has to dramatically change his game under Pep if he's going to stay part of this squad, it also shows you the reason Pep is a big fan of Sanchez
 
It's just not dropping for you Simon, sorry bud but it's very shortsighted.... we actually score on average more goals when he is out of the team. He's the greatest striker in terms of scoring ability, however, he actually restricts our potency in this current system.... I saw in the first 5 minutes of GJ in this team what we are setting out to do, that's not to say it's an exact science, hence we are looking at other options in the inevitable event his form dips because of age...

try to not be so condescending in you replies and you may be able to then see that I can see your ponts as well as my own. Im not disagreeing with you about suitablity to a system and whether Kun does or doesnt suit it. He does struggle, though he has made huge attempts to adapt to it wit some relative success. What Im talking about is however not just dropping/selling the best striker in premiership history on the chance of something else working...like you said we have baiscally seen a few minor exzmples of what potential the other 3 have together (albeit that was against inferior opposition and we have no way and neither does pep have of knowing whether long term those 3 can be the answer....)

My point is that we should retain (if possible) all 4 of them and not just sell Kun....IF he chooses to leave cause he wants to be an automatic starter then that is a different kettle of fish but there are some people on here who are being very short sighted if they think that is the best option when IF we can get Kun to stay and be part of a squad that would clearly be the best option (i grant you that is a huge IF but its what we should be aiming at for next year and then once the young lads (esp Sane and GJ are embeded in and have proved they can handle it) then sell him.....the grass is not always greener on the other side straight away....

What i dont doubt is in partiular GJ and Sane are the future but next year we need to bed them in.
 
try to not be so condescending in you replies and you may be able to then see that I can see your ponts as well as my own. Im not disagreeing with you about suitablity to a system and whether Kun does or doesnt suit it. He does struggle, though he has made huge attempts to adapt to it wit some relative success. What Im talking about is however not just dropping/selling the best striker in premiership history on the chance of something else working...like you said we have baiscally seen a few minor exzmples of what potential the other 3 have together (albeit that was against inferior opposition and we have no way and neither does pep have of knowing whether long term those 3 can be the answer....)

My point is that we should retain (if possible) all 4 of them and not just sell Kun....IF he chooses to leave cause he wants to be an automatic starter then that is a different kettle of fish but there are some people on here who are being very short sighted if they think that is the best option when IF we can get Kun to stay and be part of a squad that would clearly be the best option (i grant you that is a huge IF but its what we should be aiming at for next year and then once the young lads (esp Sane and GJ are embeded in and have proved they can handle it) then sell him.....the grass is not always greener on the other side straight away....

What i dont doubt is in partiular GJ and Sane are the future but next year we need to bed them in.

Mate you do this a lot when you feel 'an opinion' differs drastically from your own.. there's nothing condescending if we have the same debate 3/4 times, you countered yet never acknowledged you agreed, anyway, you have posted what I said 20 pages back, if kun is willing to stay, rotate and not be 1st choice every week, then it's a no brainer, however, what I and a few others are alluding to is that in principle that is great, in practice it just won't happen.... he isn't Wayne Rooney and nor will he want to find himself in such a position!!!
 
Selling Aguero and then signing Sanchez would make signing Sanchez a lot less exciting. The thought of them playing together is mouthwatering though.
 
Spoke to an Arsenal mate today, who has exec facilities at the Emirates, (son of a famous father) he reckons kdb goes to Arsenal in exchange for Sanchez, not his thoughts but the gossip in certain circles.
 
Spoke to an Arsenal mate today, who has exec facilities at the Emirates, (son of a famous father) he reckons kdb goes to Arsenal in exchange for Sanchez, not his thoughts but the gossip in certain circles.


Hahahahaha. that wouldn't work on so many different levels.
 
Spoke to an Arsenal mate today, who has exec facilities at the Emirates, (son of a famous father) he reckons kdb goes to Arsenal in exchange for Sanchez, not his thoughts but the gossip in certain circles.

I can believe this. KDB isn't gonna get many games in a wide position and he doesn't seem to have the engine to play in a more central position. He's been a real worry this season - I hope he stays but his fitness levels need to increase 20 to 30 per cent.
 
I can believe this. KDB isn't gonna get many games in a wide position and he doesn't seem to have the engine to play in a more central position. He's been a real worry this season - I hope he stays but his fitness levels need to increase 20 to 30 per cent.

If he is played central rather than deeper in midfield he's amazing like against Barca home and PSG last season?
 
Pep is playing him too deep and it does not suit him one bit

Agreed kaz. Kev has even said recently he's taking one for the team playing a role that is deeper than usual but he will do his best. I don't think kev has the engine to do the role he's doing but he's still a hugely important player for us
 
Pep is playing him too deep and it does not suit him one bit

I don't disagree but his fitness levels need to improve. In Peps system he can't drift out of games. He looks to be blowing damn hard at times. Hopefully we'll address this over the summer and in pre season. He's a great player but we are not getting the best out of him just now.
 
Agreed kaz. Kev has even said recently he's taking one for the team playing a role that is deeper than usual but he will do his best. I don't think kev has the engine to do the role he's doing but he's still a hugely important player for us
He is being blunted,play yaya or dave deep as they have much better passing stats
 
I don't disagree but his fitness levels need to improve. In Peps system he can't drift out of games. He looks to be blowing damn hard at times. Hopefully we'll address this over the summer and in pre season. He's a great player but we are not getting the best out of him just now.
I agree they should all be fitter,i just don't see the point of having him deep and then expecting him to sprint fowards,thats not really his game
 
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