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Ali v Tyson
- Thread starter Never Mind The Pollocks
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leighton
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Ali wins all day long. Tyson was a great fighter in his early days but lost the love for boxing when the going got tough Tyson faded. When his badest man on the planet myth ended he was getting bashed up and beaten by Kevin McBride and Danny Williams and to some extent James Douglas says it all he had his faults and has been found out.
Ali should of retired after the win against Leon Spinks dont know why he fought Larry Holmes and Berbick in the end and that kinda of put a blot on his brilliant carrer he was the most electrifying boxer of all time. The media and fans loved him and he was the first fighter to win over everyone and he will go down as the peoples champion for a long long time.
The fight with George Foreman was good showed just how good his chin was taking bombs off of the best bangers back then in his era and thats some going.
Ali should of retired after the win against Leon Spinks dont know why he fought Larry Holmes and Berbick in the end and that kinda of put a blot on his brilliant carrer he was the most electrifying boxer of all time. The media and fans loved him and he was the first fighter to win over everyone and he will go down as the peoples champion for a long long time.
The fight with George Foreman was good showed just how good his chin was taking bombs off of the best bangers back then in his era and thats some going.
RichardDunneOwnGoal
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Every fight tale of the tape he was 5'11" 1/2, every boxing fan knows this, but his wiki says 5'10". Not sure what happened to him :)
I know that was what he was listed as mate, but he certainly wasn't 5'11" and a half. They even used camera trickery of him stood in front of a height chart on a documentary from the eighties to make him appear that tall. He was even listed at 6 feet a couple of times.
You'll notice he wore lifts in his shoes as well, if you look closely during all of his bouts from the late 85 onwards I think. Had at least a 2 inch heal on them.
Larry Merchant even speculated he was a short as 5'9" during one fight, although I'd say that was cutting him short.
5'10" was/is about right. His listed height was always inflated.
Found the clip where his height was 'measured', notice how he's stood about a foot in front of the chart and the camera is panning up from about his shoulder height.
Neither of them compare to Shatov the destroyer, but then again no-one does, apparently...
That's a fair point. Shatov could have battered both of them whilst scoring the winning world cup final goal and fucking Ryan Giggs sister-in-law at the same time.
#theshat
Paul Lake's Left Knee
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That's a fair point. Shatov could have battered both of them whilst scoring the winning world cup final goal and fucking Ryan Giggs sister-in-law at the same time.
#theshat
Need to send the Shat to Syria, he'd sort out ISIS in no time.
The shat, the only man to ever slam a revolving door
#theshat
Metalartin
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Ali wins all day long. Tyson was a great fighter in his early days but lost the love for boxing when the going got tough Tyson faded. When his badest man on the planet myth ended he was getting bashed up and beaten by Kevin McBride and Danny Williams and to some extent James Douglas says it all he had his faults and has been found out.
Ali should of retired after the win against Leon Spinks dont know why he fought Larry Holmes and Berbick in the end and that kinda of put a blot on his brilliant carrer he was the most electrifying boxer of all time. The media and fans loved him and he was the first fighter to win over everyone and he will go down as the peoples champion for a long long time.
The fight with George Foreman was good showed just how good his chin was taking bombs off of the best bangers back then in his era and thats some going.
There are accounts that Tyson ducked a 41 year old Foreman from sources close to both parties, he had a real fear of Foreman apparently.
Yes we all know he had the dip and duck movement to get in close but when you come up against the greats they know how to handle it. Tyson fanatics act like Cus's peakaboo style hadn't been seen before Tyson came on the scene... it wasn't radically new and Cus himself already trained fighters such as Floyd Patterson, José Torres, Vinnie Ferguson. Ontop of that he'd tutored Teddy Atlas, Kevin Rooney, and Joe Fariello in his boxing training methods. Rooney took over and continued training him till the end of 1988... I think when you consider he was trained from 13 years old(some say sooner) that's quite a long time to learn a particular style. Good fighters actually want to try new trainers to learn different styles and new techniques so I don't buy the excuses on that angle either.
I guess some people are just too in love with Iron Mike bad boy persona, to be critical.
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Need to send the Shat to Syria, he'd sort out ISIS in no time.
The shat, the only man to ever slam a revolving door
#theshat
He's a hero to many and not just us. His story is being told all around the world and one day, men will count us as privileged beyond belief to have live in the time of The Shat.
#theshat
Paul Lake's Left Knee
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There are accounts that Tyson ducked a 41 year old Foreman from sources close to both parties, he had a real fear of Foreman apparently.
Foreman, Lewis, Moorer and Bowe if the rumours are to be believed, he certainly paid Lewis not to fight him until he wanted that final payday, the baddest man on the planet though according to his fan boys.
Foreman, Lewis, Moorer and Bowe if the rumours are to be believed, he certainly paid Lewis not to fight him until he wanted that final payday, the baddest man on the planet though according to his fan boys.
Tyson fans are like Elvis fans. They never saw the fat bloated, egg bound junkie. They still saw him as the king of rock n roll. Tyson fans saw him knock over a string of hand picked bums and look utterly fucking devastating whilst he did it, but can't come to terms with his losses or the fighters he dodged.
RichardDunneOwnGoal
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Tyson fans are like Elvis fans. They never saw the fat bloated, egg bound junkie. They still saw him as the king of rock n roll. Tyson fans saw him knock over a string of hand picked bums and look utterly fucking devastating whilst he did it, but can't come to terms with his losses or the fighters he dodged.
Harsh.
I think there are casual boxing fans who fall into that group you describe, but I genuinely think a lot of people don't recognise what a fighter he was when he was truly at his peak.
It's a shame he never came up against a Holyfield or a Lewis during that period, their peaks came during different eras.