Ali v Tyson

[Barcon]

Tyson fans are like Elvis fans. They never saw the fat bloated, egg bound junkie. They still saw him as the king of rock n roll. Tyson fans saw him knock over a string of hand picked bums and look utterly fucking devastating whilst he did it, but can't come to terms with his losses or the fighters he dodged.

Biting and a raping seems to get brushed under the carpet as well.

 

[RichardDunneOwnGoal]

There are accounts that Tyson ducked a 41 year old Foreman from sources close to both parties, he had a real fear of Foreman apparently.

Yes we all know he had the dip and duck movement to get in close but when you come up against the greats they know how to handle it. Tyson fanatics act like Cus's peakaboo style hadn't been seen before Tyson came on the scene... it wasn't radically new and Cus himself already trained fighters such as Floyd Patterson, José Torres, Vinnie Ferguson. Ontop of that he'd tutored Teddy Atlas, Kevin Rooney, and Joe Fariello in his boxing training methods. Rooney took over and continued training him till the end of 1988... I think when you consider he was trained from 13 years old(some say sooner) that's quite a long time to learn a particular style. Good fighters actually want to try new trainers to learn different styles and new techniques so I don't buy the excuses on that angle either.



I guess some people are just too in love with Iron Mike bad boy persona, to be critical.

Edit because it was interesting too:

Quality video that second one, never seen it before. Thanks for that.

 

[ianw16]

Ali. No argument. Probably Frazier as well. At his best.

 

[RichardDunneOwnGoal]

Ali. No argument. Probably Frazier as well. At his best.

You'd back Frazier against Tyson?

Come off it mate.

Similar style of fighters but Tyson had the much greater hand speed, he was stronger, had a weight advantage, was an IMO, better rounded fighter.