Alvarez done deal - £82m to Atletico

For what it's worth I've really liked him while he's been here. Completely proved me wrong because I thought he was just going to be a CFG signing. He's a hard worker and a good utility forward. He's been here for some of the greatest moments of City's history and played a big part in loads of them. I just don't think he's kicking on like we expected and he can't expect to start much in front of Foden, Haaland, De Bruyne, etc. There might have been a future for him out wide, and there still might, but if we get anything north of £50m for him I say take it and reinvest.
 
Cheadle_hulmeBlue said:
To be fair he was an integral part of us winning a treble. I’m not really sure what more he could have done to be ‘that player’ - no player who wants game time would be happy being second choice or constantly in and out of the side
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Yeah i know what you mean. He's very unfortunate that he will always play second fiddle to Haaland, and that just isn't going to change. That being said, if say for arguments sake we sold Haaland, i still don't think he'd be his replacement long term.
 
youngbob said:
For what it's worth I've really liked him while he's been here. Completely proved me wrong because I thought he was just going to be a CFG signing. He's a hard worker and a good utility forward. He's been here for some of the greatest moments of City's history and played a big part in loads of them. I just don't think he's kicking on like we expected and he can't expect to start much in front of Foden, Haaland, De Bruyne, etc. There might have been a future for him out wide, and there still might, but if we get anything north of £50m for him I say take it and reinvest.
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Completely agree with your post, his form definitely dipped in the last few months of the season, if he wants to move sell him for a decent profit
 
If he doesn’t leave this summer I reckon he’ll definitely be off next year
 
Apparently A Madrid have offered to take Alvarez on a year loan with an obligation to purchase him next summer! Fucking cheeky bastards, i think we all knew they dont have the cash to be honest
 
Well wishing he stays at City tbh. Since he's a very good player who just had his best ever season at the club. Who's also quickly won each & everything for both club & country. Hoping for a contract extension soon if he does stay put too.
 
Shazza458 said:
If he doesn’t leave this summer I reckon he’ll definitely be off next year
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Maybe but next year we will be at a stage where we need Haaland to comit to an extension or be thinking of cashing in. That may influence Alvsrez next summer.
 
richards30 said:
Apparently A Madrid have offered to take Alvarez on a year loan with an obligation to purchase him next summer! Fucking cheeky bastards, i think we all knew they dont have the cash to be honest
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It is very interesting reading posts here to get different perspectives.Alvarez considered a utility player at City but even in his bad moments ahead of Lautaro Martinez for Argentina.Foden maybe very good in England but internationally all his limitations were exposed by Spain and others in the Euros
 
Passarella said:
It is very interesting reading posts here to get different perspectives.Alvarez considered a utility player at City but even in his bad moments ahead of Lautaro Martinez for Argentina.Foden maybe very good in England but internationally all his limitations were exposed by Spain and others in the Euros
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I think what was exposed in the Euros was Southgate’s tactical limitations not Phil’s footballing limitations. The ball was rarely retained in forward areas in any of our games, hence Phil ran more than anyone to try and get the ball. Add to that the failure of Judas Bellingham to pass the ball to him
 
Think he’s the most high profile first team squad member that we can afford to leave, Walker aside.

It’d depend on who we could replace him with that would be the crucial part.

A £70m book profit on him would open a lot of potential doors to transfers.
 
BringBackSwales said:
I think what was exposed in the Euros was Southgate’s tactical limitations not Phil’s footballing limitations. The ball was rarely retained in forward areas in any of our games, hence Phil ran more than anyone to try and get the ball. Add to that the failure of Judas Bellingham to pass the ball to him
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Alan Harper's Tash said:
Think he’s the most high profile first team squad member that we can afford to leave, Walker aside.

It’d depend on who we could replace him with that would be the crucial part.

A £70m book profit on him would open a lot of potential doors to transfers.
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His replacement is a tricky question, would really need to be a striker but which striker would come knowing we had Haaland. If we replaced him with a midfielder then we'd be short if Haaland got injured with no real false 9 option.
 
Squad always needs a little shake up after title winning season, not to loose balance and motivation and hunger.

Alvarez is a great player, but the biggest issue has always been his first touch and therefore unconvincing dribbling with the ball, which leads to simple / stupid errors sometimes and missed chances.

Same story we experienced with Sterling btw.

I don't think he will ever improve that skill and therefore he won't ever be good enough to be a regular starter in this City team. We have Foden as n10 and Haaland as n9 for future, what can be said, we already have best possible options and they deserve it.

So I think it's time to get the money and move on, cause year-after-year his price will decrease.

We have Oscar Bobb incoming. Played False9, RW, N10 positions last year and did great job. Savio incoming and he will cover more for Bernardo (RW), so Oscar will be used centrally more I guess - False9, N10 whenever Foden, KDB or Haaland need rotation...
 
BringBackSwales said:
I think what was exposed in the Euros was Southgate’s tactical limitations not Phil’s footballing limitations. The ball was rarely retained in forward areas in any of our games, hence Phil ran more than anyone to try and get the ball. Add to that the failure of Judas Bellingham to pass the ball to him
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Perhaps you are right but you should consider the possibility that Scaloni is getting more out of Julian than Guardiola.
Foden has won nothing with England.Julian the World Cup,Two Copa Américas and Finalissima with Argentina.He is now playing the Olimpics to add to all of those plus the Libertadores,Champions,Premier,Liga Argentina.
Foden outside of City?
 
blueparrot said:
His replacement is a tricky question, would really need to be a striker but which striker would come knowing we had Haaland. If we replaced him with a midfielder then we'd be short if Haaland got injured with no real false 9 option.
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Foden, Bernardo and even Grealish have played false 9 before.

Alvarez is more of a false 9 than a fox in the box 9. A Musiala, Olmo type could probably do a false 9 job too.

I’d only really be entertaining selling Alvarez if the club knew who his replacement would be.
 
Alan Harper's Tash said:
Foden, Bernardo and even Grealish have played false 9 before.

Alvarez is more of a false 9 than a fox in the box 9. A Musiala, Olmo type could probably do a false 9 job too.

I’d only really be entertaining selling Alvarez if the club knew who his replacement would be.
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Bayern rumoured to be in for Olmo as well? Alvarez to A Madrid, Olmo to Bayern and Musiala to us would be nice!
 
Passarella said:
Perhaps you are right but you should consider the possibility that Scaloni is getting more out of Julian than Guardiola.
Foden has won nothing with England.Julian the World Cup,Two Copa Américas and Finalissima with Argentina.He is now playing the Olimpics to add to all of those plus the Libertadores,Champions,Premier,Liga Argentina.
Foden outside of City?
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England are shit, Argentina are decent. Neither is solely down to Foden or Alvarez. In my opinion to suggest that one player is responsible for a team of 11 being good or not is naive in the extreme
 
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