America Bombs Venezuela

BlueMoonAcrossThePond said:
Beats me... but even if so... it's a huge defect in cognitive ability to conclude that by kidnapping Maduro, suddenly major oil companies will be willing to invest in developing Venezuelan oil. There's no fucking way that's happening until a completely stable, foreign-investment friendly, capitalist government takes charge.
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It’s ok, Mexico will pay when they’ve finished paying for the wall.
 
Cigs&Alc said:
Well that implies a number of things.

You imply that A) I’m from the US…I am not

And B) I support the US’ actions…I do not fully.

Unfortunately social media has ruined political discussion and room for nuance. Just because I support or agree with one aspect of an action or an event does not mean I support the event as a whole or the people carrying out.

The US military executed an operation with ridiculous precision and are overthrowing a dictatorship. Unfortunately they have done so with zero respect for international norms and it sets a dangerous precedent. See how I can have a nuanced position?
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Sorry mate that ain't nuanced at all. Claiming that Venezuela is a dictatorship is an inherently ideological position. Stop consuming so much US propaganda.

Also why the fuck you patronising me you melt I didn't even respond to you haha...anyway

Why does political discussion need nuance? This is usually parroted by the liberals and centrists who can't wait to defend the system and the status quo. I know what me and millions others believe and believe me, nuance doesn't come into it!
 
51st state.
52nd coming soon.
53rd in planning.
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Satire died a long time ago. This age of stupid is getting rather above its station.

How does puppetry international law resolve this? It does what it has done for Ukraine? No, it'll do less. Meanwhile spineless leadership in Britain waits for the facts.

The ramifications are terrifying.
 
cheekybids said:
I don’t think he sees anything other than him & his mates getting richer even if it means higher debt from military spending, lots of death. The people who lose tend to be the working classes & soldiers on both sides.
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Lots of deaths! The media is a joke. Nothing at all about the innocent people that basically were murdered.. I feel for the families.Trump is charging their president in the US. Venezuela. Trump should be charged by the International Courts to murder, kidnapping and false imprisonment.
 
I dont understand why Americans have such a high opinion of themselves. Why Americans see themselves as the world police. The facts show they just fuck up everywhere, Vietnam, Iran, Afghanistan etc go in all guns blazing then leave the country in a mess. The Americans leave a vacuum where terrorist can take over the country. The terrorist then hit back on Europen and American soil. The cycle goes on.

Hollywood plays its part in falsifying the facts. America won WW2 , America saved the world from alien invasion. Americans on the whole are very insular and believe the president.

Americans believe their way is best and correct. They believe they have the right to shot each other, still very racist country and in the south a very backdown scary religion view on life. They dont have a sense of humour, I fact they dont do humour.

I am all ways baffled when I hear people on quiz shows saying if they won they would go to America. Fuck me that's the last place I'll go.



In sport the Americans have the world series in which its just them ! They will take over and ruin our football. They can't play rugby so have to wear body armour and call it football ! Cant play rounders so wear helmets and gloves and call it baseball. In cycling their pro team were the biggest doping cheats in the history of cycling.
 
Oyster28catcher said:
51st state.
52nd coming soon.
53rd in planning.
Expand bigly.

Satire died a long time ago. This age of stupid is getting rather above its station.

How does puppetry international law resolve this? It does what it has done for Ukraine? No, it'll do less. Meanwhile spineless leadership in Britain waits for the facts.

The ramifications are terrifying.
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The USA are the worlds policeman AND the worlds army AND the worlds jury AND the worlds free press. We have let them do that. A single point of failure has failed.
 
Cigs&Alc said:
We'll have to wait and see. All my point is is that Venezuela was in turmoil under Maduro and a lot of people are acting like it wasn't.
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This is the problem. The cure is worse than the illness.

"The New York Times has just confirmed that 40 civilians died in President Trump's invasion."
 
Oyster28catcher said:
51st state.
52nd coming soon.
53rd in planning.
Expand bigly.

Satire died a long time ago. This age of stupid is getting rather above its station.

How does puppetry international law resolve this? It does what it has done for Ukraine? No, it'll do less. Meanwhile spineless leadership in Britain waits for the facts.

The ramifications are terrifying.
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Britain isn't waiting for the facts, the facts are obvious to any year 6 pupil or above. We're waiting for it to quietly blow over.

We're the tail, not the dog.
 
Oyster28catcher said:
51st state.
52nd coming soon.
53rd in planning.
Expand bigly.

Satire died a long time ago. This age of stupid is getting rather above its station.

How does puppetry international law resolve this? It does what it has done for Ukraine? No, it'll do less. Meanwhile spineless leadership in Britain waits for the facts.

The ramifications are terrifying.
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America needs living space.
 
Blue and true said:
Britain isn't waiting for the facts, the facts are obvious to any year 6 pupil or above. We're waiting for it to quietly blow over.

We're the tail, not the dog.
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i think this approach is going to become less politically viable and something will have to give eventually.

To many, myself included, there was once a price worth paying in relation to our subservience to the US, but that no longer remains the case, as they cannot nowbe relied upon in multiple ways. The situation is obviously further complicated by Brexit. I expect a stark choice for the people of this country, between the US or Europe as our principal allies would prove to be a hugely divisive issue, complicated further by the spectre of Russia and Trump’s disposition towards it.
 
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