Amy

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Just watched it with my 24 year old lad. He was transfixed all the way through, changed his opinion completely about her, and wants to batter that utter bellend Blake. Can't understand why her Dad didn't, and to be honest, as a father neither can I, cash cow or not.

But what a voice she had, tragic waste of talent, and life.
 
Not just the press but a number of 'comedy' sketches on TV that were far from funny, from people who claim to be 'in touch'

Yes, the comments from the likes of Jay Leno, Graham Norton and Frankie Boyle look pretty callous now. I guess that's the nature of some types of comedy though: anyone is a target.

At the time she was still alive, albeit clearly pretty fucked up. Now that she's passed away those comments seem a bit more sinister, but at a base level are they any different to jokes made about, say, Keith Richards?

Obviously what subsequently happened to her changes our perception with hindsight, but there are clear similarities at the time they were making the jokes: namely mocking a rock star with a nihilistic lifestyle.

Not that I've got any great inclination to defend Leno, Norton or Boyle mind you.
 
I think that it is particularly difficult to watch this as a parent. How can you possibly see her like this and not want to protect her? I feel she was completely let down by those around her. There's a few people contributing to this documentary who need to take a long hard look at themselves, acknowledging that this is just one editors view.
 
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Superb watch. No one should have to go through that. It was inevitably tragic because whilst we can blame those who piggy backed her, her closest friends tried everything and it wasn't enough.

Our media are truly shameful but it gets bought so what does it say about us?
 
being a father of 3 girls, il tell you what, id of given that blake a right going over, not encouraging violence or anything but the way he clearly got her into the smack and stuff, her father should of done the right thing and twated the ****, waste of a talent, thats for sure
 
Watched this recently. Was never a huge fan of hers at the time, but wow what a voice - that acoustic song she does at the record studio is sensational.

As has been said, the men in her life need a good smack, and no Blake, not that kind.
 
A great talent and a bright young woman, completely rinsed and dried by leeches and vampires and scorned by clueless rubberneckers.

In the words of Shaun Ryder: 'You can get so big that they nail you to a piece of wood'.
 
She was no idiot - she was strong-willed and I suspect if she was looking on now she would be the one taking responsibility rather then those around her.

The often destructive force that is unconditional love.
 
So if you can sing a bit but are a bit of a piss head/smack head then terrible waste, if not then you are a waster and no one cares, tragedy because she didn't sound like a drowned cat in the shower
 
So if you can sing a bit but are a bit of a piss head/smack head then terrible waste, if not then you are a waster and no one cares, tragedy because she didn't sound like a drowned cat in the shower

The death of someone at such a young age is tragic - regardless of where their talents lay.
 
They dont get a documentary on tv though or a share in royalties

Did you actually bother watch the doc ? I found it genuinely moving and sad. Her addiction and her problems in dealing with it, were a product of her fame and the pressure it placed upon her at such an early age, they didn't go hand in hand. Indeed she came across as much stronger and happier before she broke it really big in her career, and went from starlet to worldwide superstar.
It's a different scenario to an addict who is just an ordinary joe but they're both crap situtations and you'd have to be a bit of an arse not have some sympathy with either case.

That Britney Southpark episode already nailed this to some extent, a story as old as the concept of celebrity. Amy just shows us how a fragile young person can understandably go off the rails, with so much thrust upon them in terms of commercial and media pressures, not to mention family and supposed friends hopping on the gravy train as well, throw in some Daddy issues and it's a lot to deal with while still basically a kid.
Without enough good people around, with her best interests at heart, you see her almost fed to the wolves, be they people close to her who she loved and couldn't see their true intentions, promoters with dolla signs flashing or the standard paparazzo vultures, hounding her every movement from flat door to rehab centre gate, they all get their pound of flesh.

It's easy for people to say, but yeah you're loaded and everybody loves you, stop whining about your troubles love, don't succumb to the crutch of addiction even with every vice you can think of available on tap etc. Without walking a day in their shoes though, how do you know if you'd be strong enough to handle everything thrown at you and stay balanced through it all ?
 
So if you can sing a bit but are a bit of a piss head/smack head then terrible waste, if not then you are a waster and no one cares, tragedy because she didn't sound like a drowned cat in the shower

No, I'd say any young person who dies as a result of drink or drugs is a terrible waste of life.
 
Did you actually bother watch the doc ? I found it genuinely moving and sad. Her addiction and her problems in dealing with it, were a product of her fame and the pressure it placed upon her at such an early age, they didn't go hand in hand. Indeed she came across as much stronger and happier before she broke it really big in her career, and went from starlet to worldwide superstar.
It's a different scenario to an addict who is just an ordinary joe but they're both crap situtations and you'd have to be a bit of an arse not have some sympathy with either case.

That Britney Southpark episode already nailed this to some extent, a story as old as the concept of celebrity. Amy just shows us how a fragile young person can understandably go off the rails, with so much thrust upon them in terms of commercial and media pressures, not to mention family and supposed friends hopping on the gravy train as well, throw in some Daddy issues and it's a lot to deal with while still basically a kid.
Without enough good people around, with her best interests at heart, you see her almost fed to the wolves, be they people close to her who she loved and couldn't see their true intentions, promoters with dolla signs flashing or the standard paparazzo vultures, hounding her every movement from flat door to rehab centre gate, they all get their pound of flesh.

It's easy for people to say, but yeah you're loaded and everybody loves you, stop whining about your troubles love, don't succumb to the crutch of addiction even with every vice you can think of available on tap etc. Without walking a day in their shoes though, how do you know if you'd be strong enough to handle everything thrown at you and stay balanced through it all ?

Simple really, am I happy? No, walk away

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And next week 'Ric the TV guide' will be concentrating on CBeebies with fantastic random shouts when Mr Tumble, Andys Dino Adventure and Mr Maker starts.
 
Never got into her, she always came across as a bit needy and a twat.

Still...sad that she died with so many problems in her life and those around her, the so called loved ones, ignoring them for their own gains.
 

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