An Evening with Gazza

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Yes, and was never even charged with an offence - trial by social media post mortem.

And he can’t even spell the poor man’s name correctly.

 

[Johnny Mars Bar]

I’d rather spend an evening with the ghost of Jimmy Savile.

 

[Mike N]

Rather spend an evening in Gaza...

Funny and topical!

 

[Ste68]

It’s far more complicated than you suggest. There are plenty of people who are generous to those who they interact with socially who are cunts behind closed doors. And vice versa. Not saying with any certainty Gascgoigne is either of those things but to claim you know him sufficiently based on second hand accounts is overstating and simplifying things somewhat.

Based on my observations I’d say he was charismatic, generous, easily manipulated, a bit thick and very selfish (yes it’s possible to be simultaneously generous and selfish) but like you (I suspect) I’m ultimately guessing what his true character is.

Bottom line Gascoigne had and has some serious mental health issues that in themselves don't make him a good or bad individual. When he was at the top his game and earning huge sums much of his troubled behaviour was overlooked, ignored or put down to high jinks and I doubt he was offered any serious help with the only focus being is he performing on the pitch from fans and clubs and others looking to benefit from any connection to him ( Chris Evans and the like). Whatever support he has had since he always seems to relapse which is a shame. Difficult to know what he was really like behind closed doors but imagine very difficult to live.

 

[LongsightM13]

It’s far more complicated than you suggest. There are plenty of people who are generous to those who they interact with socially who are cunts behind closed doors. And vice versa. Not saying with any certainty Gascgoigne is either of those things but to claim you know him sufficiently based on second hand accounts is overstating and simplifying things somewhat.

Based on my observations I’d say he was charismatic, generous, easily manipulated, a bit thick and very selfish (yes it’s possible to be simultaneously generous and selfish) but like you (I suspect) I’m ultimately guessing what his true character is.

The old saying, ‘street angel, house devil’
Known a few of them in my life
I always thought he was a bit overrated as a player
And anyone who mimes playing a flute in the charged atmosphere of an old firm derby is a bit of a ****

 

[hammocity]

I worked in the village he stayed in when in Scotland. I stayed in the village he fished in when in Scotland and literally nobody , who actually knew him / met him, had a bad word to say about him. Everybody loved the guy. Generous to a fault. Guy gave so much to local charities

He lived in kilbarchan which is a small village next to Johnstone. Johnstone is a real working class town and ‘Howwood Road’ is the toughest area. A group of lads knew Gazza was on holiday and broke into house to use his pool among other things. Gazza didn’t phone police when he caught them he gave them his number and said to phone anytime they wanted to use Pool as he had been in their place once.

He was a member of Howwood fishery and donated the most expensive fly fishing gear to the fishery so others could get away from the town and enjoy the countryside. He wanted nothing in return

He’d walk into local store and buy a newspaper and give local shop owner £50 note and tell him to give local kids all the sweets they wanted and if it was more (it never was) just to let him know and he’d square him up

It’s funny that wherever you see Gazza threads on the internet there are people like you desperate to slag him off and mock him despite having absolutely no idea what the guy was like. You don’t have the first clue! It’s really quite sad but it says more about you than it does about Gazza

You’re very quick to judge, he battered his Mrs so the point is valid. So what if he gives money away? He could afford it, that doesn’t mitigate what he did.

I knew a few business people in Newcastle including my gaffer who was mates with John Hall and Freddie Fletcher, they didn’t like him and the autobiography he wrote is full of inaccuracies including incidents at Julie’s Nightclub and the bit where he says he jumped in a fish tank in a restaurant.

He’s a Walter Mitty character and involved in some dubious incidents, I’m not surprised you like him.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

The old saying, ‘street angel, house devil’
Known a few of them in my life
I always thought he was a bit overrated as a player
And anyone who mimes playing a flute in the charged atmosphere of an old firm derby is a bit of a ****

He’s definitely a ****, but I think the flute was down to ignorance more than anything malign.

Disagree about him being (entirely) overrated as a player, at least before his injury in the FA Cup Final. He had skill, balance and supreme acceleration to get himself away from the defending opposition player. That tackle completely robbed him of the latter. In his prime. Who knows what a player he could have been without that self-imposed hindrance.

I genuinely once had a conversation with Gary Charles about that tackle, sat on a wall on High Pavement in Nottingham.

tbf, he was incredibly magnanimous.

 

[jimharri]

He’s definitely a ****, but I think the flute was down to ignorance more than anything malign.

Disagree about him being (entirely) overrated as a player, at least before his injury in the FA Cup Final. He had skill, balance and supreme acceleration to get himself away from the defending opposition player. That tackle completely robbed him of the latter. In his prime. Who knows what a player he could have been without that self-imposed hindrance.

I genuinely once had a conversation with Gary Charles about that tackle, sat on a wall on High Pavement in Nottingham.

tbf, he was incredibly magnanimous.

I think you're being very generous to him there. Let me don my devil's advocate hat here; let's say he was, as you say, ignorant as to the meaning of his actions. Okay; fair enough. But why, then, did he choose that particular celebration, as opposed to, say, doing a funky chicken dance? Or something equally "wacky" or "zany". I think he knew full well what he was doing. Now; it could be argued that he was doing it to appeal to the Rangers fans, as opposed to winding up the Celtic fans. Only he can answer that.

 

[No.8]

The old saying, ‘street angel, house devil’
Known a few of them in my life
I always thought he was a bit overrated as a player
And anyone who mimes playing a flute in the charged atmosphere of an old firm derby is a bit of a ****

He didn’t do during an old firm game. It was a European game and he was set up by Durrant , McCoist and Ferguson. He had no idea what it represented

Typical response from a fairly harmless gesture from the great unwashed. They threatened to murder him!

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

I think you're being very generous to him there. Let me don my devil's advocate hat here; let's say he was, as you say, ignorant as to the meaning of his actions. Okay; fair enough. But why, then, did he choose that particular celebration, as opposed to, say, doing a funky chicken dance? Or something equally "wacky" or "zany". I think he knew full well what he was doing. Now; it could be argued that he was doing it to appeal to the Rangers fans, as opposed to winding up the Celtic fans. Only he can answer that.

I’m sure I read he’d been inveigled into it by teammates. And this was acknowledged to be as such.