And so it begins...

[waspish]

Why haven't the rags gone for him they spunked 30m on a left back why not on a better player?

 

[mancity1]

For those who actually care to study a player rather than read newspaper reports and back issues of 442 Barkley is a great example of getting far more than the stats suggest.

He has the power and burst of speed that Rooney had but has better stamina than Rooney.

He has a ferocious shot and is good with both feet and has excellent close control, better than Rooney.

He can hold his own with his foot speed too meaning that his Ronaldo like step-overs give him something Rooney lacked.

His weakness is that he can make poor decisions and when playing against better organised defences he is prone to making rash decisions but that is about experience at the top level.

I would imagine that he may well see that in order to develop further he has to gain that experience and also train with the very best of players.

The fact that he is approaching 21 should inform his decision to make a move as Everton are way off where he could go but he needs to get that move as soon as possible.

All IMHO of course.

Similar hype to Rodwell before we made a move on him I would suggest.

Mind you I still think if Rodwell could stay injury free he could do a job for us on a regular basis but potential can be a dangerous thing to be tarred with.

In saying that for home grown quotas etc if Milner was to leave and I hope he doesn't Barks would be a good replacement.

 

[JoeMercer'sWay]

it doesn't really matter when you develop, as long as you do.

 

[cmdub]

For those asking about Rodwell, he was poised to leave on loan to Everton back in January.

It only fell down at last minute because of Fernando deal getting bogged down.

Everton already had two Premier League players on loan in Barry and Lukaku, under the permitted rules.

Everton's plan was to pay us our £2m fee early to make Barry a permanent deal.

Rodwell would come in on loan with a view to signing in the summer.

Everton are still very much at the table.

Still don't see the point in the selling now on Barkley. If they roll the dice and keep him and he has another great season the price will only go up unless we've fully cornered the market(bit more difficult with him being english)

Much more complicated than that, he has entered the final 18 months of his contract.

Everton first proposed an extension back in March but nothing since.

They have since signed up Baines. Even Martinez and McCarthy got new offers, despite being at the club less than a year.

Barkley and his agents now hold all the cards.

He can sit tight or secure a promise from Everton of a sale next year at an agreed buy out.

For the latter to happen, Everton would still have to pay him proper wages for the next 12 months.

Ok fair enough wasn't aware of his contract situation. Than it would seem if he's giving indications that he's holding out for better terms or not willing to sign at all than the time would be this summer and not the next as his contract runs out in January 2016

 

[andrewmswift]

ugh now i'm gonna be on the transfer forum nonstop! thanks tolmie for ruining my next month :)

 

[mancity1]

Still don't see the point in the selling now on Barkley. If they roll the dice and keep him and he has another great season the price will only go up unless we've fully cornered the market(bit more difficult with him being english)

Much more complicated than that, he has entered the final 18 months of his contract.

Everton first proposed an extension back in March but nothing since.

They have since signed up Baines. Even Martinez and McCarthy got new offers, despite being at the club less than a year.

Barkley and his agents now hold all the cards.

He can sit tight or secure a promise from Everton of a sale next year at an agreed buy out.

For the latter to happen, Everton would still have to pay him proper wages for the next 12 months.

Ok fair enough wasn't aware of his contract situation. Than it would seem if he's giving indications that he's holding out for better terms or not willing to sign at all than the time would be this summer and not the next as his contract runs out in January 2016

I am pretty sure Tolmie is spot on re Rodwell.

He is not part of the clubs plans even short term but we have to replace like with like or better still better like when it comes to home grown players.

If Milner went Rodwell might stay on in fact or maybe still be with us if Milner stays because Everton might not b prepared to buy him back for we paid for him originally.

Being a member albeit a bit part of a premiership winning team has its price also in market.

I actually feel alot of empathy for Jack , I reckon he is a decent lad and a good team player in all aspects on and off the field but his hammys are not much chop at present.

He may be a Gerrard mark two without the on field presence as such.

I like the way he was bossing the players when they stuffed up and taking the game against Dundee seriously albeit a practice match that we were destined to lose from the outset.

 

[birchwoodgingerste]

For those asking about Rodwell, he was poised to leave on loan to Everton back in January.

It only fell down at last minute because of Fernando deal getting bogged down.

Everton already had two Premier League players on loan in Barry and Lukaku, under the permitted rules.

Everton's plan was to pay us our £2m fee early to make Barry a permanent deal.

Rodwell would come in on loan with a view to signing in the summer.

Everton are still very much at the table.

loan or permanet tolm?.
also if we sell all the players you mentioned is there any chance we may have 2 homegrown coming in i.e barkley and chamberlain, or walcott

Would defo be one.

I see no reason for Walcott or Ox to want to leave Arsenal.

cheers hope we get barkley think he will only get better and his stock will rise.

 

[Bill]

Would they value Yaya as the same as Cavani given Yaya's age.

Tolm as already said Yaya is going nowhere and I can't see the Beast moving unless a silly offer comes in for him which allows us to replace him.

If we got £25m for Negredo who would replace him.

Let's remember the beast scored 9 PL goals all season.....

He is not irreplaceable.

And I honestly think if anyone offered 25 mill ( which they won't ) we would snatch their hands off. Plenty of strikers out there who can get 10 plus goals with our supply line....

And they don't have to cost the earth. We would still have 3 ready made international class strikers.

And if you want a back up who would guarantee goals if played and be cheap(ish).....


Demba Ba ......

So quickly people forget...

spot on.

 

[mancity1]

Let's remember the beast scored 9 PL goals all season.....

He is not irreplaceable.

And I honestly think if anyone offered 25 mill ( which they won't ) we would snatch their hands off. Plenty of strikers out there who can get 10 plus goals with our supply line....

And they don't have to cost the earth. We would still have 3 ready made international class strikers.

And if you want a back up who would guarantee goals if played and be cheap(ish).....


Demba Ba ......

So quickly people forget...

spot on.

plenty more where that come from last season as this season you will have many more gifs to add to those above.

His shoulder was in far more disrepair than I initially thought.

23 this season over the course of the journey will do me nice and dandy.

 

[kaz7]

Negredo has said that he is not leaving,see his thread
Never thought he would