Andy Burnham | Manchester Mayor

[Citizen of Legoland]

Sounds like any new swamp is decades away to me based on that @Kirkstall Blue .

I remember having to commute by train daily through GM 30 years ago and there was lots of talk about how this and that will improve over the coming years and yet here I am now, near retirement, and they’re still talking.

 

[AndyP68]

I'd challenge that. They were prepared to knock down the Etihad and spend whatever it took to build something more in line with their high expectations. Had we still been at Maine Road they'd have been able to do that.

Having a shiny new stadium was a big attraction.

 

[petrusha]

Having a shiny new stadium was a big attraction.

For some potential owners, maybe. ADUG certainly didn't regard it as shiny and, for an almost new stadium, viewed it as rather underwhelming. If you go back to the time of the takeover and look at the kind of major construction projects that had recently been taking place in Abu Dhabi, you'll see why.

 

[cheekybids]

Sounds like any new swamp is decades away to me based on that @Kirkstall Blue .

I remember having to commute by train daily through GM 30 years ago and there was lots of talk about how this and that will improve over the coming years and yet here I am now, near retirement, and they’re still talking.

The longer the better for Scruffy Jim…… I’ve said it before & ill say it again they’ll play at Wembley.

 

[BlueSkyBlue]

As well as fitting in what ever is going to provide 90,000 jobs!

Yep, there has been zero communication what these jobs will be....I am assuming they are included in the construction so are not long term careers.

 

[TheGhost]

The longer the better for Scruffy Jim…… I’ve said it before & ill say it again they’ll play at Wembley.

They could tour around the country - Wembley, Murrayfield, Millenium

 

[cheekybids]

They could tour around the country - Wembley, Murrayfield, Millenium

Dublin, Singapore & Surrey…..

 

[blue b4 the moon]

They could tour around the country - Wembley, Murrayfield, Millenium

If they're going to go to Scotland & Wales, may as well go to Ireland too.

It'll be the start of games being played abroad tho that's the problem.

 

[TheGhost]

They could tour around the country - Wembley, Murrayfield, Millenium

They could even use it as an excuse to play overseas. Imagine how much they could charge for a Premier League game in New York - even against Fulham or Bournemouth.

 

[TheGhost]

Dublin, Singapore & Surrey…

I was thinking the Aviva is too small but forgot about Croke Park

 

[cheekybids]

They could even use it as an excuse to play overseas. Imagine how much they could charge for a Premier League game in New York - even against Fulham or Bournemouth.

They’d need a stadium in New York….

 

[Wayneclarkemunchescarrots]

The cunts could get relegated at home to Fulham in Singapore

 

[AndyP68]

For some potential owners, maybe. ADUG certainly didn't regard it as shiny and, for an almost new stadium, viewed it as rather underwhelming. If you go back to the time of the takeover and look at the kind of major construction projects that had recently been taking place in Abu Dhabi, you'll see why.

There is next to no chance ADUG would have taken over City if we were still at Maine Rd

 

[jrb]

Burnham & Co, United, and Trafford Council are planing to tie the Trafford Civic Quarter, New Trafford Stadium district, and Trafford Wharfside together into one larger proposal.



Trafford Civic Quarter plans.

Which include a ‘Processional route from the Old Trafford Cricket ground to the new Old Trafford stadium’. Highlighted in purple and yellow in the drawings below.






The first massing model shows Trafford Wharfside on the left.



Click on the link for a massing fly-through of the Trafford Wharfside proposal.

Masterplan - Trafford Design Code

The master plan for Trafford Wharfside, incorporating Old Trafford Stadium and the Imperial War Museum North

trafforddesigncode.uk

The new stadium on the model is in the wrong place. It will be further to the left once the freight terminal land is bought by the Government.

 

[petrusha]

There is next to no chance ADUG would have taken over City if we were still at Maine Rd

Before City were in play, they had a serious interest in Goodison-based Everton.

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

There is next to no chance ADUG would have taken over City if we were still at Maine Rd

This is simply wrong. They wanted and were quite prepared to spend whatever it took to build a new stadium even in 2008. Us being at Maine Road would have given them the perfect reason to do that.

Sport England's legal interest in the Etihad expires in 2028, so we'll see what happens then. The Etihad's effective economic life 50 years, so we'll be halfway there at that point.

 

[Gone for a Burton]

Having a shiny new stadium was a big attraction.

For some potential owners, maybe. ADUG certainly didn't regard it as shiny and, for an almost new stadium, viewed it as rather underwhelming. If you go back to the time of the takeover and look at the kind of major construction projects that had recently been taking place in Abu Dhabi, you'll see why.

ADUG were attracted by the entry price to aquire City and its assets, the developable land, future land acquisition opportunities, and an entrepreneurial Council leader, in addition to City's history and long term potential.

No assets/land = no deal !!

 

[BerkshireBlue]

Burnham & Co, United, and Trafford Council are planing to tie the Trafford Civic Quarter, New Trafford Stadium district, and Trafford Wharfside together into one larger proposal.

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Trafford Civic Quarter plans.

Which include a ‘Processional route from the Old Trafford Cricket ground to the new Old Trafford stadium’. Highlighted in purple and yellow in the drawings below.


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The first massing model shows Trafford Wharfside on the left.

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Click on the link for a massing fly-through of the Trafford Wharfside proposal.

Masterplan - Trafford Design Code

The master plan for Trafford Wharfside, incorporating Old Trafford Stadium and the Imperial War Museum North

trafforddesigncode.uk

The new stadium on the model is in the wrong place. It will be further to the left once the freight terminal land is bought by the Government.

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Whare are these extra 100,000 jobs going to belong? I'm sure as hell can't see them. United have already made 250+ redundancies so is that included in the figure?

 

[jrb]

Whare are these extra 100,000 jobs going to belong? I'm sure as hell can't see them. United have already made 250+ redundancies so is that included in the figure?

That figure is just for PR purposes. I would say it’s an outright lie. But it doesn’t get questioned by the media.

Obviously jobs will be created, just like they have been and are still are being created at City.

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

ADUG were attracted by the entry price to aquire City and its assets, the developable land, future land acquisition opportunities, and an entrepreneurial Council leader, in addition to City's history and long term potential.

No assets/land = no deal !!

It was definitely helpful but the lack of it wouldn't have been a significant hindrance.