Andy Welsh Sacked

[Utter bobbins]

anyone on twitter should checkout the timeline of @GedCoyne1
bit of an eye opener about whats going on behind the scenes at city.
It does not sound good !

I've been slated for saying this on here for two years. Marwood is a fucking parasite and need to be fucked off. I've never met a single "football person" who thinks he's anything but an idiot.

GedCoyne1 ‏@GedCoyne1
@1cornishblue @stubbsblue Mancini and Marwood hate each other. Mancini would have been fired had we not won the league. No doubt about that.

And that.

@1cornishblue @stubbsblue Marwood has lost the power battle between the two. He'd lost it the day when Cooky was forced out.

And that too.

@stubbsblue Oh right.Cheers Stuart. Marwood is an imposter and needs sacking immediately. The Academy needs to be rebuilt from top to bottom

This especially.

Yay us, we might get rid of the ****.

Didn't sound that way when I was speaking to Marwood. Think I would rather trust what Khaldoon says than some prick on twatter

 

[Damocles]

And I would rather trust what every football man in the club says in regards to the football side of the business. I have no doubt that he's a competent administrator . I also have no doubt that he's absolutely incompetent when it comes to forming any sort of cohesion between the Academy and first team, and he's been looking after himself since the moment that he arrived.

 

[sergiokun]

Could try for Wenger from our feeder club would save us a fortune in the long term. :-)

Lol

 

[tueartsboots]

be wary of what @GedCoyne1 says, his tweets over the last few weeks have been dubious to say the least and quite nasty to certain ex players

 

[Damocles]

I should point out that he IS an ex-employee with a grudge against the club.

We should consider this in anything he says.

 

[tueartsboots]

I should point out that he IS an ex-employee with a grudge against the club.

We should consider this in anything he says.

so he is now ex-employee? Explains a lot tbh, I think he may have been the one to start that Nicky Summerbee thread which was bogus

 

[WNRH]

Surely this is the clearest indication yet that Mancini will definitely sign a new deal?

He wanted greater control of the club and has it now with his own man in place with the EDS set up. Great move if true, all managers should have their own man in as reserve manager.

As for that @gedcoyne1 fella, his tweets read like the mad ramblings of a bitter man.

This tweet made me laugh in particular

"@1cornishblue @stubbsblue The job of an Academy is to produce them, not buy them for huge sums. It's just defeating the whole object"

I didn't realise Weiss, Johnson, Barton, SWP, Sturridge, Richards, Boyata and Guidetti were at the club since they were 6 year old!

and this one

"@markpembo Correct. Jim Cassell is the best youth development officer in Europe&his job these days is penpushing in an office doing a nonjob"

It's a wonder why Ajax, Barca and Sporting haven't snapped him up!

 

[Franny Lee's Barrel Chest]

I think he was out of his league.

The next reserve/EDS manager has to work closely with RM as he will have players like Suarez, Rekik, et al who's development are crucial. If they are failed at reserve level it could impact on the first team and FFP, so it's a very important appointment.

 

[Ray78]

Has done a very poor job so this shouldn't be a suprise. On a side note, who was in charge of recruiting those two rag dickheads, who slagged our club on their twitter accouts?

 

[ultimateharold]

Get Jim back in.

It seemed this year the kids were getting by on standout players.

 

[The Fat el Hombre]

Don't know a great deal about Andy Welsh but whenever I saw him in interviews on the OS he never really struck me as really having it if you know what I mean? Just seemed a bit, meh

If it is Lombardo then good luck to him, i imagine he'd be good with youngsters cos he seems a bit daft

 

[Neville Kneville]

Get Jim back in.

It seemed this year the kids were getting by on standout players.

The results are unimportant, it's about producing players. We have been producing players for the Championship & Jim did no better than the current bloke.

We didn't produce one single player good enough to get in this current team, in all the years he was there, apart from Micah Richards. The nearest (SWP) we signed from Forest.

Before the academy was set up, people like Ken Barnes & those before him used to somehow find top class players from Manchester.

Where these academy guy's reputation for excellence has come from, I've no idea. It has failed completely.

 

[denislawsbackheel]

We signed Micah from Oldham. They have a 20% sell on clause

 

[Deleted member 14625]

Get Jim back in.

It seemed this year the kids were getting by on standout players.

The results are unimportant, it's about producing players. We have been producing players for the Championship & Jim did no better than the current bloke.

We didn't produce one single player good enough to get in this current team, in all the years he was there, apart from Micah Richards. The nearest (SWP) we signed from Forest.

Before the academy was set up, people like Ken Barnes & those before him used to somehow find top class players from Manchester.

Where these academy guy's reputation for excellence has come from, I've no idea. It has failed completely.

We always had good local talent playing for the club when we were a top side in the 60's and 70's and also when we weren't so good in the 80's we got promoted and got ourselves up to 5th in the Prem by the early 90's with a good youth team coming through. Since then we've produced Championship standard players as a rule.

Three players who have played a big part in City's first team in recent years are Shaun Wright-Phillips, Micah Richards and Joe Hart and all of them came from other Academies (Forest, Oldham and Shrwesbury) before they came to us.

2.6million live in the Manchester Metropolitan area, 6.2million live in the North West. Phil Jagielka is from Brooklands and he came through at Sheff Utd. Players don't have to come from here to come through our system but it is nice to see a local hero in a City shirt and that goers for fans of all clubs all over the world.

 

[stockportblue]

Get Jim back in.

It seemed this year the kids were getting by on standout players.

The results are unimportant, it's about producing players. We have been producing players for the Championship & Jim did no better than the current bloke.

We didn't produce one single player good enough to get in this current team, in all the years he was there, apart from Micah Richards. The nearest (SWP) we signed from Forest.

Before the academy was set up, people like Ken Barnes & those before him used to somehow find top class players from Manchester.

Where these academy guy's reputation for excellence has come from, I've no idea. It has failed completely.

We always had good local talent playing for the club when we were a top side in the 60's and 70's and also when we weren't so good in the 80's we got promoted and got ourselves up to 5th in the Prem by the early 90's with a good youth team coming through. Since then we've produced Championship standard players as a rule.

Three players who have played a big part in City's first team in recent years are Shaun Wright-Phillips, Micah Richards and Joe Hart and all of them came from other Academies (Forest, Oldham and Shrwesbury) before they came to us.

2.6million live in the Manchester Metropolitan area, 6.2million live in the North West. Phil Jagielka is from Brooklands and he came through at Sheff Utd. Players don't have to come from here to come through our system but it is nice to see a local hero in a City shirt and that goers for fans of all clubs all over the world.

Good post mate-When you look at what the likes of Guy Roux achieved-city have underachieved ove rthe last 20 years in recruiting and developing local talent.On the positive side the current under 15s in terms of individuals and style of play look a though things may take a turn for the better.

 

[Ticket For Schalke]

Personally asked Lombardo, he didnt know much about it, just that he's looking after the players who aren't going to austria.

 

[CityEssex49er]

Get Jim back in.

It seemed this year the kids were getting by on standout players.

The results are unimportant, it's about producing players. We have been producing players for the Championship & Jim did no better than the current bloke.

We didn't produce one single player good enough to get in this current team, in all the years he was there, apart from Micah Richards. The nearest (SWP) we signed from Forest.

Before the academy was set up, people like Ken Barnes & those before him used to somehow find top class players from Manchester.

Where these academy guy's reputation for excellence has come from, I've no idea. It has failed completely.

We always had good local talent playing for the club when we were a top side in the 60's and 70's and also when we weren't so good in the 80's we got promoted and got ourselves up to 5th in the Prem by the early 90's with a good youth team coming through. Since then we've produced Championship standard players as a rule.

Three players who have played a big part in City's first team in recent years are Shaun Wright-Phillips, Micah Richards and Joe Hart and all of them came from other Academies (Forest, Oldham and Shrwesbury) before they came to us.

2.6million live in the Manchester Metropolitan area, 6.2million live in the North West. Phil Jagielka is from Brooklands and he came through at Sheff Utd. Players don't have to come from here to come through our system but it is nice to see a local hero in a City shirt and that goers for fans of all clubs all over the world.

What about Danny Sturridge ??

Top draw for me..............

 

[coulsonblue]

The flaw with this whole "It's the win at all cost mentality killing english football", is that you don't often play very well and not win.

 

[stockportblue]

The flaw with this whole "It's the win at all cost mentality killing english football", is that you don't often play very well and not win.

In terms of developing young players I would disagree with you.The Ajax/Barca model where the future is the most important consideration; they try to push the better younger players to play above their natural age group.

They may find it difficult at first but learn more.If the team loses -so be it-the kids learn more and they will develop quicker.City now have a deliberate policy of promoting kids above their natural age when they are ready for the next challenge.

In a different era the likes of Alan Hudson and Trevor Brooking developed by playing in the street against older kids-they needed to make decisions quicker or they would have been taken out by the bigger lads.What Ajax ,Barca and hopefully City are doing is based on the same principles in the modern era.

 

[Shaelumstash]

The flaw with this whole "It's the win at all cost mentality killing english football", is that you don't often play very well and not win.

At professional level this may be somewhat true, but at junior level I would completely disagree with you. At under 12s if you had a 5'10, 12 stone Kelvin Etuhu playing on the wing, you'd probably have a better chance of winning than having a 5'1, 7 stone David Silva.

Etuhu at that age is basically like playing with a man on the team, lump the ball up to him and he'll batter his way through with pace and power. The problem is, get him to professional level and his technique is not good enough.

Conversely, this is why is the current system someone with the technique and finesse of Silva will not come through at an English academy, because he is too small. I know who I'd rather have in the team.