Angelino

[The Fat el Hombre]

Depends who tweeted it

 

[shak]

So, I almost forgot about him arriving whilst referring to the need to sign Maguire as a HG player.

Technically, he will qualify as HG registered for both the PL and arguably even better, for CL as a club HG player, and he's actually over 21.

I suspect we still are looking at Maguire because the options are still thin for CB, and will we keep him around or look to sell right away?

Maguire is association trained, Angelino is club trained. The signing of one will have no bearing on the other as they come under different quotas.

 

[GoldenLitefut]

Twitter? It a social media platform where anybody can claim to be anyone and say anything. As a result 99% of posts on it aren't verified and are likely bullshit as a result.

How did you get the the 99% figure? Can you show your maths?

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

How did you get the the 99% figure? Can you show your maths?

100-1=99.

If you are on there, I'd bump it to 99.1% though.

 

[Tez Tosterone]

100-1=99.

If you are on there, I'd bump it to 99.1% though.

Hoho

 

[80s Shorts]

Twitter? It a social media platform where anybody can claim to be anyone and say anything. As a result 99% of posts on it aren't verified and are likely bullshit as a result.

Only 99%

 

[PrezIke]

Maguire is association trained, Angelino is club trained. The signing of one will have no bearing on the other as they come under different quotas.

Yes, I understand the difference. I've played enough Football Manager to learn this lol.

For CL you need 4 of the 8 "HG" players to be club trained (3 years between 15-21). PL just needs 8 association trained "HG" players.

I pointed out in a recent post the that you could hypothetically sign more than 4 association trained HG players to help with that quota for the PL squad, rather than registering U21s (as we have). However, because for CL 4 of them need to be club trained, any player ONLY association trained we have beyond 4 might not be able to play in Europe. If we decide to register any for CL that would push out other non HG players. This is why we only try to keep 4 in the squad.

The reason we have this problem, and why Angelino could be additionally valuable if he's worth registering, is because none of our senior players who actually get games/over 21 are club trained. Foden doesn't count for PL registration because he doesn't have to be registered due to his age, and you don't need club trained players for PL. We register him anyway, but most academy players in the EDS can be registered as association or club trained.

What we have been doing is use 4 of our academy players to help with CL registration and PL.

Angelino, would be the first player in a while (who was the last...anyone actually?) that counts as both a club trained (automatically association trained) and HAS to be registered in order to play (u21s & u20s with the club for 2 years do not need to be registered), whilst I realise Maguire counts for only association trained.

Angelino's value there for us (as would Maffeo, btw) as a result is quite high. Some easy reasons why:

1) Because it actually means you could have more REAL depth in the squad. Maybe it's too much depth, but it allows for more quality to be filled in the squad to help with injuries rather than very young players.

2) Arguably more important is that by having club trained players good enough in the squad there is less pressure to pay mega overinflated fees for a Maguire or other association trained players.

 

[Coatigan]

Yes, I understand the difference. I've played enough Football Manager to learn this lol.

For CL you need 4 of the 8 "HG" players to be club trained (3 years between 15-21). PL just needs 8 association trained "HG" players.

I pointed out in a recent post the that you could hypothetically sign more than 4 association trained HG players to help with that quota for the PL squad, rather than registering U21s (as we have). However, because for CL 4 of them need to be club trained, any player ONLY association trained we have beyond 4 might not be able to play in Europe. If we decide to register any for CL that would push out other non HG players. This is why we only try to keep 4 in the squad.

The reason we have this problem, and why Angelino could be additionally valuable if he's worth registering, is because none of our senior players who actually get games/over 21 are club trained. Foden doesn't count for PL registration because he doesn't have to be registered due to his age, and you don't need club trained players for PL. We register him anyway, but most academy players in the EDS can be registered as association or club trained.

What we have been doing is use 4 of our academy players to help with CL registration and PL.

Angelino, would be the first player in a while (who was the last...anyone actually?) that counts as both a club trained (automatically association trained) and HAS to be registered in order to play (u21s & u20s with the club for 2 years do not need to be registered), whilst I realise Maguire counts for only association trained.

Angelino's value there for us (as would Maffeo, btw) as a result is quite high. Some easy reasons why:

1) Because it actually means you could have more REAL depth in the squad. Maybe it's too much depth, but it allows for more quality to be filled in the squad to help with injuries rather than very young players.

2) Arguably more important is that by having club trained players good enough in the squad there is less pressure to pay mega overinflated fees for a Maguire or other association trained players.

One player we all seem to forget is gabriel jesus, who now counts as club trained, therefore one of the home grown players. indeed in february he was registered as such for champs league knockouts, freeing up a slot which was given to sandler (who himself will also qualify as such at the end of this season).

so by my count we currently have 15 non-homegrown players (assuming mangala wont feature this season), allowing comfortably 2 new foreign signings.

another interesting one is zinchenko, who i believe might have just missed counting as homme grown/club trained by a month. but i havnt fully checked that tbh.

 

[Tugay One Cup]

Learnt English from the family he stayed with in Manchester and says shit like "can't be arsed". Also has no interest in watching football.

Bald, reluctant star fullback who makes an extra effort with locals? Sounds familiar.



Andy van der Meyde is a nutter but some of his interviews are great. There's a part in this one where he says him, Arteta and Pienaar were the only three at Everton who could play football and the rest were just playing kick and rush. He also calls Arteta a "great man" and you can tell he really means it.

 

[St.Pauli support]

One player we all seem to forget is gabriel jesus, who now counts as club trained, therefore one of the home grown players. indeed in february he was registered as such for champs league knockouts, freeing up a slot which was given to sandler (who himself will also qualify as such at the end of this season).

so by my count we currently have 15 non-homegrown players (assuming mangala wont feature this season), allowing comfortably 2 new foreign signings.

another interesting one is zinchenko, who i believe might have just missed counting as homme grown/club trained by a month. but i havnt fully checked that tbh.

Welcome.
Great start, but actually not much correct.

Jesus qualified for UEFA B list in February still being U21.
Now he is 22 and from now on counts as non-HG for CL and PL.

https://www.mancity.com/news/first-...champions-league-squad-confirmation-knock-out

As of now we have 1 free non-HG spot after Vincent left, reserved for Rodri if you ask me.

Zin came back from PSV 2 years ago. He was never ever close to becoming HG.


Please do your homework first on that difficult HG matter before confusing anyone on here.

Back on topic.