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Kazzydeyna said:
I reckon it would be closer to 999 out of 1000. I just think immigrants should be prioritised on their skills and the need for them and not on the fact that they are a white European which under the EU gives them a guaranteed place regardless of skillset over the dark skinned people from outside Europe .
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Not this wibbling shite again. How about we regard them as people rather than ‘economic units’ whose skills we ‘intend to monetise’?
 
Chippy_boy said:
Totally agree. People complain about the strain on our public services. Blame for that lies with successive governments failing to look forward, plan and prepare the public services infrastructure to cope with the projected numbers. These people are welcome net contributors, not leeches.
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Haven't you previously argued we've spent too much on our public services?
 
hgblue said:
He's agreed a deal which I'm sure he's not completely happy with in order to get it through a Remain dominated Parliament, that won't be the case after the election. If the EU like this deal, then I'd expect them to listen to Boris's request regarding the extension, because he's demonstrated he can get it through. A long extension is no longer a risk free option for the EU.
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You are of course right - but unfortunately for you that will not sway those on here that are most comfortable when they are able to fawn over the EU and rubbish the UK
 
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blueinsa said:
So you keep saying.

I keep saying the opposite.

Only a GE will show who was right and who was wrong.
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Strictly speaking it s true that we will not know until the GE is held.

But in reality we all know that you are right - evidenced by the Labour party's actions
 
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Saddleworth2 said:
Every single promise Johnson makes is broken. Out by 31st October, no border in the Irish Sea, will never ask for an extension. When you tell so many lies it is inevitable.
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Wow - that is a really blinkered post

Do you feel better now you have slagged of Johnson - I hope so because then the post will have served some purpose

Back to matters of more relevance - who, apart from the Johnson haters, attributes blame to Johnson for those 3 examples you give?

He should not be remotely bothered by that - they are not going to vote his way in any upcoming election anyway.

On the other hand those that Johnson has wanted to influence and secure the votes of will likely applaud his efforts in all 3 areas and blame those parties Johnson will be facing off against in the GE.

So - perhaps he is being quite astute
 
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mat said:
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Straight from that to today's bbc news: "Downing Street sources deny cabinet splits".

At least they're saying "Downing Street sources". When Cummings first came in, it was simply "Downing Street says..."

I've got used to any criticism of cuts to education or local government being reported but always followed by "the government says they've had plenty of money" with no attempt to verify the truth of that.

Now Johnson can say one thing and a "Downing Street source" can confuse the issue by saying something different and they're both lying.
 
mcfc1632 said:
Wow - that is a really blinkered post

Do you feel better now you have slagged of Johnson - I hope so because then the post will have served some purpose

Back to matters of more relevance - who, apart from the Johnson haters, attributes blame to Johnson for those 3 examples you give?

He should not be remotely bothered by that - they are not going to vote his way in any upcoming election anyway.

On the other hand those that Johnson has wanted to influence and secure the votes of will likely applaud his efforts in all 3 areas and blame those parties Johnson will be facing off against in the GE.

So - perhaps he is being quite astute
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Who do you blame for the plan to put a border in the Irish Sea that no British PM could accept? Astute = shameless.
 
Ban-jani said:
I think to ‘some degree’ isn’t fanciful. I reckon 99 out of 100 posters will agree we need at least some immigration into certain areas of industry.
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That, is a completely pointless caveat.
 
I can understand political fatigue and voter apathy, which may also play a part in either the G.E or ref2. I have voted 7 times in the last 5 years. indyref, GE, Bref, Scot.E, GE2, local E, European E (imagine voting for those unelected beurocrats!). and i imagine at least another 2 of 3 are coming, out of GE3, Bref2 & Indyref2, if not all three.

I don't know how many Xs i have left in me!

Anyone else think this is intense politics in a condensed period?
 
mcfc1632 said:
Wow - that is a really blinkered post

Do you feel better now you have slagged of Johnson - I hope so because then the post will have served some purpose

Back to matters of more relevance - who, apart from the Johnson haters, attributes blame to Johnson for those 3 examples you give?

He should not be remotely bothered by that - they are not going to vote his way in any upcoming election anyway.

On the other hand those that Johnson has wanted to influence and secure the votes of will likely applaud his efforts in all 3 areas and blame those parties Johnson will be facing off against in the GE.

So - perhaps he is being quite astute
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Not blinkered, I see him for what he is. Very good at manipulating the gullible. Your take on facts pretty much matches his standards.
 
Kazzydeyna said:
I reckon it would be closer to 999 out of 1000. I just think immigrants should be prioritised on their skills and the need for them and not on the fact that they are a white European which under the EU gives them a guaranteed place regardless of skillset over the dark skinned people from outside Europe .
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To be fair the EU doesn’t do that. It often grants non-Europeans citizenship in places such as Poland and Bulgaria and then they travel over to Western Europe.

I speak with these people on a regular basis.
 
Vic said:
But Johnson on his own has told more lies than all those individuals talking about failed delivery.
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A convenient dismissal of the rest of the lying shower, promising faithfully and sincerely to honour commitments,
Corbyn the chief amongst them, spouting one after another. I get you're on the other side, fair enough, but Johnson's popularity
is almost twice that of Corbyn, why is that? The incessant lying slurs don't seem to be working, do they?
 
Coatigan said:
I can understand political fatigue and voter apathy, which may also play a part in either the G.E or ref2. I have voted 7 times in the last 5 years. indyref, GE, Bref, Scot.E, GE2, local E, European E (imagine voting for those unelected beurocrats!). and i imagine at least another 2 of 3 are coming, out of GE3, Bref2 & Indyref2, if not all three.

I don't know how many Xs i have left in me!

Anyone else think this is intense politics in a condensed period?
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Voting once every 200 days or so doesn’t seem too onerous to me. Fuck voter apathy and fatigue, a bit more engagement in the issues that affect our futures wouldn’t go amiss
 
Coatigan said:
I can understand political fatigue and voter apathy, which may also play a part in either the G.E or ref2. I have voted 7 times in the last 5 years. indyref, GE, Bref, Scot.E, GE2, local E, European E (imagine voting for those unelected beurocrats!). and i imagine at least another 2 of 3 are coming, out of GE3, Bref2 & Indyref2, if not all three.

I don't know how many Xs i have left in me!

Anyone else think this is intense politics in a condensed period?
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Sounds like you need a John Bercow in your life.
 
Ancient Citizen said:
A convenient dismissal of the rest of the lying shower, promising faithfully and sincerely to honour commitments,
Corbyn the chief amongst them, spouting one after another. I get you're on the other side, fair enough, but Johnson's popularity
is almost twice that of Corbyn, why is that? The incessant lying slurs don't seem to be working, do they?
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Cant you see what's happening mate?

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