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Next retail as well. They’re seeing their sales plummeting and probably want to see people spending at home, rather than going abroad often and spending money there.

Considering the EU have granted UK nationals 90 free days travel, post Brexit, those running Next hoping that people will travel less are widely mistaken.

Anyway, your point is correct, most big businesses are against Brexit.
I wonder what the EU tariffs are on clothing imports? I'm guessing they are quite substantial, and that may be behind Next's thinking. As a business solely supplying the UK market, if they can import cheap clothing from India and Bangladesh, then they probably figure they can boost domestic sales and profits. Fair enough if that's the case tbh.
 
To be honest I think Wetherspoons in particular is the only business I can think of that has really even mentioned Brexit in a positive light.

I worked at Wetherspoons and you always saw his articles in the company mags so political lobbying from him is nothing new.

When I was there he was banging on about taxes on alcohol. He wants Brexit because he has calculated that it would benefit his business, nothing wrong with that of course.

I can't think of any others that are in favour and have expressed that. The only thing we have ever heard over the last 3 years is how the FTSE will pack up and leave, Airbus will leave, the car industry will collapse etc.

I don't know how remainers and certainly Labour can say that big business is correct that we should remain but then simultaneously say that big business is behind the campaign to leave for tax dodging reasons etc!

The support of one fool like Aaron Banks is just totally irrelevant in the grand scheme of things.

Not publicly but my mother works for Next and the top dog told their staff at the annual conference he’s voting for Brexit and doing so will benefit their business.

My mum actually listened to him, unfortunately.
 
I wonder what the EU tariffs are on clothing imports? I'm guessing they are quite substantial, and that may be behind Next's thinking. As a business solely supplying the UK market, if they can import cheap clothing from India and Bangladesh, then they probably figure they can boost domestic sales and profits. Fair enough if that's the case tbh.

They can do what they want.
 
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Brexit campaign was largely funded by five of UK's richest businessmen

The five contributed £15m out of a total £24.1m given to Leave campaigns in the five months before the referendum

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...st-businessmen-peter-hargreaves-a7699046.html

Goldman Sachs, Airbus, and Morgan Stanley all funded some remain campaigns. Hell, Olly Robins the former Brexit negotiator has just joined Goldman Sachs!

I don't see the point here, there is an inference that something is wrong with funding political campaigns for some but not others.

I'd understand if criminal charges resulting in convictions had been brought against any of those people but have they?

I don't dispute that there are extremely dodgy people on the leave side but if we were to talk of big business then I wouldn't think of Aaron Banks. I instead would think of the very people who want us to remain.
 
A few of you know what I do but I'm not advertising on here because dickheads jump all over it. This is absolutely correct. Every "serious" business person I speak to, and I speak to a lot, is massively anti-Brexit. But most are scared of going public because they don't want to alienate customers.

Interesting observation regarding being scared to speak out about their feelings on the subject.

I think there are millions upon millions of ordinary folk who now keep their thoughts to themselves. In the main because of the abuse that is dished out these days by both sides of the argument and indeed when it comes to party politics in general.

This I think makes elections more unpredictable than ever and might go someway to explaining the inaccurate polls that have come out prior to votes over the last few years.
 
A few of you know what I do but I'm not advertising on here because dickheads jump all over it. This is absolutely correct. Every "serious" business person I speak to, and I speak to a lot, is massively anti-Brexit. But most are scared of going public because they don't want to alienate customers.

We work in a great industry, mate.

I’m proud of it and we often save businesses millions in the process of making ourselves money.
 
The herd of elephants hiding in plain sight is the media barons, the opinon formers,, no other big business group can be considered in the same way , apart from straw clutching by desperate cheerleaders. Every one of them has vested interests and whatever they are reported to have said may not be what was actually said. A surefire indicator is where it is reported, if the msm say its red, put your money on black..
 
The herd of elephants hiding in plain sight is the media barons, the opinon formers,, no other big business group can be considered in the same way , apart from straw clutching by desperate cheerleaders. Every one of them has vested interests and whatever they are reported to have said may not be what was actually said. A surefire indicator is where it is reported, if the msm say its red, put your money on black..
Absolutely right.
People are missing the point that there's a big difference between big business and wealthy businessmen.
Big business is almost universally against Brexit due to the expected negative impact on their bottom line, however some wealthy businessmen (including some press barons) are for it because of the beneficial effects on their investments which benefit by a falling pound, deregulation and the maintenance of tax havens. Many of them don't actually live in the UK, or if they do they own massive estates away from the peasants, so are not bothered if the social fabric of the country is damaged beyond repair.
 
Absolutely right.
People are missing the point that there's a big difference between big business and wealthy businessmen.
Big business is almost universally against Brexit due to the expected negative impact on their bottom line, however some wealthy businessmen (including some press barons) are for it because of the beneficial effects on their investments which benefit by a falling pound, deregulation and the maintenance of tax havens. Many of them don't actually live in the UK, or if they do they own massive estates away from the peasants, so are not bothered if the social fabric of the country is damaged beyond repair.
Agreed.

I am not sure how many of them hold "short" positions on the UK economy though - not many I would imagine. That's more the domain of hedge fund managers. Most are in it for the potential deregulation I would imagine. And also due to the fact that it's very easy to be pro Brexit if the economic downsides will cause you zero pain because you are so wealthy you won't even notice.
 
Haha. Lining up EU workers en masse for minimum wage warehouse roles

No wonder you pair are remainers as it cuts off your supply of cheap labour

Lol

I’ve never placed someone in a minimum wage role in my life, I recruit in IT and Business Change and mostly Ltd Co. contractors.

The EU is great because of our strong economy, we attract talent from right across Europe, which means our industries benefit.

One issue with Brexit is there will be shortages across all levels of candidates.

For example, by 2021 there will be zero unemployment for Cyber Security professionals and over 3 million jobs unfilled. Our businesses are naturally going to be at risk anyway, but if talent can get paid more in Germany or if they are from Europe and decide Britain post Brexit isn’t for them, it’ll get worse. This is just one area we could be left well short in and there’s many more.

I know you’re just a troll, mostly following me around but I thought I’d give a sensible reply, not that you deserve one.

And for the record, I’m now of the opinion we should take this deal and move on.
 
I think you're wrong about this. Remain marches pull hundreds of thousands. Leave marches pull hundreds.

99.9% of the stubborn Leave voters are ordinary people who don't really understand it and just want it over.

It's a massive if of course, but if there were a 2nd ref and we revoked, there'd be a week or two of rioting and it would settle down to grumbles and Facebook pictures. the Tommy Robinson types would be the only ones kicking up a stink and they are nasty, but there aren't many of them.
99.9% you say

Good job you do not have to worry about your posts being taken seriously
 
Agreed.

I am not sure how many of them hold "short" positions on the UK economy though - not many I would imagine. That's more the domain of hedge fund managers. Most are in it for the potential deregulation I would imagine. And also due to the fact that it's very easy to be pro Brexit if the economic downsides will cause you zero pain because you are so wealthy you won't even notice.

Absolutely it's about deregulation. The shorting the pound argument is a red herring.
 
Absolutely it's about deregulation. The shorting the pound argument is a red herring.
In a bizarre kind of way, that's also why Corbyn is a Brexit supporter.

He wants the ability to meddle in businesses affairs and the markets, with subsidies and other such, but EU rules won't let him. So he wants deregulation as well.
 
In a bizarre kind of way, that's also why Corbyn is a Brexit supporter.

He wants the ability to meddle in businesses affairs and the markets, with subsidies and other such, but EU rules won't let him. So he wants deregulation as well.

Correct. Which rather than being up front about and selling as a vision to the country, he's not committing to either, and is instead wallowing about in the middle. Just what we need from the leader of the opposition.
 
In a bizarre kind of way, that's also why Corbyn is a Brexit supporter.

He wants the ability to meddle in businesses affairs and the markets, with subsidies and other such, but EU rules won't let him. So he wants deregulation as well.
I also suspect that it's because isn't really for anything. He's against lots of things but pin him down on something he actually wants and he gets pissy.
 
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