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joe123 said:
I await the policy on child refugee rights with bated breath.
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I think you get to the core of the debate that's been raging about Europe since we joined, who decides? In my opinion, laws should be made in the British Parliament by politicians who can be removed by the electorate if they implement laws that the people don't want. So, bearing in mind the fact that this was a major reason many people voted to leave the EU, it would have been a bit weird to enshrine these policies in the WA don't you think?
 
blueinsa said:
We have been making employment law since the 1833 Factory act.

Im 100% certain we will continue to do so and be just fine.
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I also suspect we won't be signing up to the inability to make redundant those you wish to make redundant (as is the case in Germany, for example, where there's a pecking order of seniority / longevity of service and being crap doesn't enter into it), Nor 1 year paternity leave or other such silliness. Doubtless that's why IfIwasonly... and others are not too happy about it.
 
Chippy_boy said:
I also suspect we won't be signing up to the inability to make redundant those you wish to make redundant (as is the case in Germany, for example, where there's a pecking order of seniority / longevity of service and being crap doesn't enter into it), Nor 1 year paternity leave or other such silliness. Doubtless that's why IfIwasonly... and others are not too happy about it.
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Only my opinion, but paternity leave is fucking ridiculous.
 
hgblue said:
I think you get to the core of the debate that's been raging about Europe since we joined, who decides? In my opinion, laws should be made in the British Parliament by politicians who can be removed by the electorate if they implement laws that the people don't want. So, bearing in mind the fact that this was a major reason many people voted to leave the EU, it would have been a bit weird to enshrine these policies in the WA don't you think?
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I'm simply saying if its a decent policy/Law or whatever, we don't have to jettison it just because the EU came up with. It's probably fairly moot anyway as I don't think the EU are liable to drive a hard bargain over this, I'm simply saying there's no reason to throw the baby out with the bathwater because you don't like that the EU came up with it.
 
Vic said:
You have misunderstood.

Do you ever listen to anybody but yourself?
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Vic - this exchange is just one of a series that you are/have been involved in which all seem to have a common theme.

The events of recent weeks have clearly been a bad knock to a number of posters such as yourself that have had a comfortable few years able to post and act in the quiet confidence that, no matter any bumps in the road, the end result will be a version of what you want.

And all of a sudden...……

I understand the level of shock that it will have been and different posters will handle the disappointment in different ways.

For instance one I can think off, that used to be always on the threads posting as if they were the absolute Oracle, seems to have disappeared. Your reaction seems to be to mope round all the threads seeking for things that you can pick up on and criticise.

What was it I saw earlier - the outcome of the GE using the long established FPTP system is now an 'elective dictatorship'. So in 2016 the referendum and now this recent GE are, instead of being massive expressions of UK democracy are a 'elective dictatorship' - simply because things did not fall your way.

And in this exchange with me today? - everyone knows that you just want to find another way of saying that Leavers are thick - well they must be because they do not agree with you. You can seek to deceive yourself but I doubt that you are deceiving anyone else.​
 
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Ancient Citizen said:
We can, and will formulate our own policies, that's the point.
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"We" The People or "We" The Rich?

The amount of protections the Tories stripped rights from the EU withdrawal bill make me think I will see little benefit to my living standards. Quite the opposite. If I'm proven wrong I'll put my hands up.
 
mat said:
"We" The People or "We" The Rich?

The amount of protections the Tories stripped rights from the EU withdrawal bill make me think I will see little benefit to my living standards. Quite the opposite. If I'm proven wrong I'll put my hands up.
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Go on what have they stripped?
 
Vic said:
I'm sure whoever coined the term knew it was an oxymoron. If you don't think that stopping Parliament from discussing any deal we cut is a bit like elective dictatorship then I can't help further.
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Ah, I get it now.....you are a remainer in denial
 
mcfc1632 said:
Vic - this exchange is just one of a series that you are/have been involved in which all seem to have a common theme.

The events of recent weeks have clearly been a bad knock to a number of posters such as yourself that have had a comfortable few years able to post and act in the quiet confidence that, no matter any bumps in the road, the end result will be a version of what you want.

And all of a sudden...……

I understand the level of shock that it will have been and different posters will handle the disappointment in different ways.

For instance one I can think off, that used to be always on the threads posting as if they were the absolute Oracle, seems to have disappeared. Your reaction seems to be to mope round all the threads seeking for things that you can pick up on and criticise.

What was it I saw earlier - the outcome of the GE using the long established FPTP system is now an 'elective dictatorship'. So in 2016 the referendum and now this recent GE are, instead of being massive expressions of UK democracy are a 'elective dictatorship' - simply because things did not fall your way.

And in this exchange with me today? - everyone knows that you just want to find another way of saying that Leavers are thick - well they must be because they do not agree with you. You can seek to deceive yourself but I doubt that you are deceiving anyone else.​
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Sorry. Didn't read it.
 
mat said:
"We" The People or "We" The Rich?

The amount of protections the Tories stripped rights from the EU withdrawal bill make me think I will see little benefit to my living standards. Quite the opposite. If I'm proven wrong I'll put my hands up.
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This is what they said in their election manifesto:

If we elect a majority of Conservative MPs to Parliament, we will start putting our deal through Parliament before Christmas and we will leave the European Union in January.
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That's the basis on which they won the election.

Now they have their majority, as we all know they have amended the draft legislation to remove rights that before the election they had included within the Withdrawal Agreement Bill. It's funny how nobody seems to care that the deal they negotiated with the EU, the deal on which they fought the election, is not the one that's now going through parliament.

You might say it goes against the will of the people.
 
Shriver doesnt speak for me, you are anyone else for that matter.

She speaks only for herself and she is no more important than anyone else in this country.

You like her view because she does what you have always done and that is try to make out the other side as some group of losers who have nothing other than a win in brexit.

Its utter bullshit Vic.
 
blueinsa said:
Have any remainers read the WA and noticed that we have taken on board all EU law made over the course of our membership and that they are now UK law?
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The ironically entitled repeal act. Should provide comfort for Remainers in that it essentially guarantees legal alignment with the EU until we legislate otherwise.
 
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