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mcfc1632 said:
Quite a few Remainers seem to think that badging Brexit as exclusively a 'Tory thing' is a way to demean that support.

They seem to have a rather simplistic way of thinking and only a passing acquaintance with the truth / facts
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Hardly. If it weren't for Labour Leave MPs we might have remained or had a nice soft Brexit deal.

But it's obviously an internal Tory thing that got us anywhere near a referendum.
 
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Ancient Citizen said:
I could not disagree more with your politics mate, but once again, you're
spot on with this assessment. I don't know if it's the ages of many on here, but
during the era you're talking about, many conservatives were heartily pissed off
with the rabid pro EU stance the party was pushing, and Benn and many others
on the left of Labour were virulently against it.
There are many Conservative Brexit voters that would have switched to Labour,
if that party had adopted leaving the EU as a manifesto recently, as many of
them were prepared to vote for anyone who would deliver what they've always
wanted, Labour didn't realise this, and went the other way, compounded by
an unintelligible Brexit policy.
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Says an expert in unintelligibility.
 
BobKowalski said:
They can’t join the scheme on the basis of collective bargaining power is greater than the individual state. Brexit is largely based on the premise that the opposite is true. It also destroys our negotiation stance with the EU in the current talks ie the UK is the ‘sovereign equal’ of the combined EU nations and both sides have ‘equal weight’.

I mean yes, both arguments and Brexit is delusional bollocks, but folding like this a mere five months after leaving the bloc doesn’t bode well.
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It bodes very well if you think a BRINO would now be our last chance to come out of this well and without massive (additional) damage to the already-damaged economy.

We've fulfilled the democratic mandate, so why carry on with the self-harm?
 
Vic said:
It bodes very well if you think a BRINO would now be our last chance to come out of this well and without massive (additional) damage to the already-damaged economy.

We've fulfilled the democratic mandate, so why carry on with the self-harm?
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Personally I think the new deal, or at least the provisional outline given there is little time left, will be very BRINO heavy. I’m just astonished at the lack of intellectual heft of a Govt and a movement that demands we eschew all cooperation because we can do better alone and then folds like a pack of cards at the first sign of trouble.

Just when I couldn’t think any less of the morons who advocate and vote for this steaming pile of shite I find new levels of sneering contempt. And that’s when I’m feeling charitable.
 
BobKowalski said:
Personally I think the new deal, or at least the provisional outline given there is little time left, will be very BRINO heavy. I’m just astonished at the lack of intellectual heft of a Govt and a movement that demands we eschew all cooperation because we can do better alone and then folds like a pack of cards at the first sign of trouble.

Just when I couldn’t think any less of the morons who advocate and vote for this steaming pile of shite I find new levels of sneering contempt. And that’s when I’m feeling charitable.
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ooohhh you’re hard
 
Not caught up with the beds for a few days. Did we bother asking for an extension to the transition period by the 1st July deadline or not?
 
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