Another new Brexit thread

[George Hannah]

Thanks for that. So he was saying we'd be in EFTA but not in the single market? So two false promises of a deal in one go!

Looking at Wiki it all seems quite straightforward

the full horror

 

[mackenzie]

You need to give it up Vic or you will just come across as acting in that manner

The referendum mandate is to leave

Any deal/model etc. is simply the consequences/outcome of how the negotiations went/go

And what if they are crap, even if arch leaver (laughs) Boris is involved?

Will leavers find another excuse or will they just admit that the whole thing was an effing terrible idea, and admit the ones who instigated it were lying about how easy it would be

 

[west didsblue]

You are just simply and obviously wrong and this deal or no-deal narrative is just convenient Remainer prevarication IMO

A deal - let's say May's deal - or perhaps EEA, Norway or Canada+ - they are all consequences of the mandate and outcomes of the negotiation

If the May WA had been approved - as much as I would have been disgusted - I would have had to accept that consequence/outcome had delivered against the mandate.

Same for any and all other models.

If I was, after such a deal, on here screaming, bitching and whinging that it did not reflect what I wanted - you would, quite rightly, be calling me out for being a disingenuous / prevaricating knob who in reality could simply not accept the result purely because it did not suit me.

The mandate is to leave

The promises were to implement the result

You have repeatedly said you would rather remain than accept May’s deal. So in those circumstances you would be more than happy to go against the stated will of the people, which adds a certain amount of hypocrisy to quite a few of your recent posts.

 

[smudgedj]

So the Irish Foreign Minister insists on Marr the backstop stays as an insurance policy against no deal which means the WA can’t pass leading to no deal and the Irish economy taking a massive hit. Makes perfect sense to me ;)

Did he mention the Mercosor agreement which is about to destroy the irish beef farmers?

 

[Ban-jani]

So the Irish Foreign Minister insists on Marr the backstop stays as an insurance policy against no deal which means the WA can’t pass leading to no deal and the Irish economy taking a massive hit. Makes perfect sense to me ;)

And the UK economy takes an even bigger hit.

The WA is the only way of leaving the Customs Union without damaging the Good Friday Agreement.

We’re 3 years on and Vote Leave supporters still don’t see this, or are you still claiming to be a remain voter?

 

[hgblue]

And the UK economy takes an even bigger hit.

The WA is the only way of leaving the Customs Union without damaging the Good Friday Agreement.

We’re 3 years on and Vote Leave supporters still don’t see this, or are you still claiming to be a remain voter?

A Remain voter? Moi? Au contraire mon ami ;)

 

[BobKowalski]

Did he mention the Mercosor agreement which is about to destroy the irish beef farmers?

It’s all gone a bit ‘Project Fear’ on the Brexit side...

 

[smudgedj]

It’s all gone a bit ‘Project Fear’ on the Brexit side...

‘Project Fear’ would be Von Der Luyden's enthusiasm for tax harmonisation.

#HateFact

 

[hgblue]

It’s all gone a bit ‘Project Fear’ on the Brexit side...

Never fear, it’s like water off a duck’s back after a while ;)

 

[johnnytapia]

The question on the ballot paper was clear and the verdict of the referendum was clear.

Fuck all about this deal, that deal, no deal, his deal, her deal. Leave or Remain.

 

[BobKowalski]

‘Project Fear’ would be Von Der Luyden's enthusiasm for tax harmonisation.

#HateFact

It’s the next logical step to ensure the smooth running of the Single Market.

But the member nations have to agree to it first. VDL’s enthusiasm is nice but isn’t going to decide shit.

 

[Ban-jani]

A Remain voter? Moi? Au contraire mon ami ;)

You said you were in the old Brexit thread and I asked you a couple of times if you were.

 

[hgblue]

You said you were in the old Brexit thread and I asked you a couple of times if you were.

Are you sure about that? If people on here think I’m a Remainer I must be doing something badly wrong ;)

 

[blueinsa]

It’s the next logical step to ensure the smooth running of the Single Market.

But the member nations have to agree to it first. VDL’s enthusiasm is nice but isn’t going to decide shit.

If she is muttering it, the French and Germans want it and what they want they normally get.

Easy Bob, Paris and Berlin will decide it for everyone else ;-)

 

[Ban-jani]

Are you sure about that? If people on here think I’m a Remainer I must be doing something badly wrong ;)

I didn’t think you were, I knew you weren’t.

You said you voted Remain though, despite the obvious opposite scenario.

 

[hgblue]

I didn’t think you were, I knew you weren’t.

You said you voted Remain though, despite the obvious opposite scenario.

Sorry bud, are you sure you don’t have me confused with someone else? I definitely don’t remember posting that and can confirm that I 100% voted Leave.

 

[Ban-jani]

Sorry bud, are you sure you don’t have me confused with someone else? I definitely don’t remember posting that and can confirm that I 100% voted Leave.

I was quite sure but the thread has been deleted now.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

I was quite sure but the thread has been deleted now.

I'm pretty sure @hgblue has always presented as a strident leaver, from well before the referendum was even mooted.

 

[hgblue]

I was quite sure but the thread has been deleted now.

Fair enough, it’s no big deal, I’m happy to confirm I’m a Leave voter.

 

[Ban-jani]

Fair enough, it’s no big deal, I’m happy to confirm I’m a Leave voter.

Fair enough. Let’s just move on as we’re not gaining anything from this.