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I can't really help you there as I wasn't aware that any deal was on offer in 2016. Indeed the only one I'm aware of is the deal brokered by Mrs May and rejected by parliament. If there was another deal, then please excuse my ignorance.


Trotting out deal not on the ballot paper response?

In which case.

Makes you wonder why politicians do all this campaigning malarkey really, it's patently not necessary.

Obviously nobody needs persuading or informing.No swing voters to make the difference between victory and defeat.
Just stick an x in the box and hope for the best.


At least there would be no need to sell fantasies,or produce unrealistic manifestos.
So it wouldn't be all bad maybe.
 
Remain lost the 2016 referendum. Remainers ‘missing their shot’ would be a fucking understatement. Not sure pointing out the fucking obvious is a lack of critical thinking so much but more about I can’t be arsed to point out the fucking obvious.

Also props for trying but don’t teach your Daddy how to fuck.
You seem to use the word 'fuck' a lot when you run out of ideas.
 
Trotting out deal not on the ballot paper response?

In which case.

Makes you wonder why politicians do all this campaigning malarkey really, it's patently not necessary.

Obviously nobody needs persuading or informing.No swing voters to make the difference between victory and defeat.
Just stick an x in the box and hope for the best.


At least there would be no need to sell fantasies,or produce unrealistic manifestos.
So it wouldn't be all bad maybe.
Your dissapointment is clear, but I suppose Remainers being upset about a promised deal is on a par with leavers being dissapointed with the lack of the promised emergency budget and house price collapse.
 
Your dissapointment is clear, but I suppose Remainers being upset about a promised deal is on a par with leavers being dissapointed with the lack of the promised emergency budget and house price collapse.

Predictions of worst case scenarios that don’t come true due to work done to mitigate them is different to saying things that aren’t true at the point of saying them
 
Your dissapointment is clear, but I suppose Remainers being upset about a promised deal is on a par with leavers being dissapointed with the lack of the promised emergency budget and house price collapse.

Not that disappointed with the ref result tbh,it was what it was.

More the aftermath.
 
Predictions of worst case scenarios that don’t come true due to work done to mitigate them is different to saying things that aren’t true at the point of saying them
Good point, but one based upon convenient assumptions, and a denial that the worst case scenarios were presented as fact. They were presented thus - hence verily did the Chancellor and PM feel they had to resign.
 
Good point, but one based upon convenient assumptions, and a denial that the worst case scenarios were presented as fact. They were presented thus - hence verily did the Chancellor and PM feel they had to resign.
Kudos for crowbarring such a redoubtable word into your post, but the way this Cameron/Osborne stuff is bandied about as compelling evidence to refute anyone suggesting leaving the EU will be anything other than a hugely positive experience for the nation, has more than a little ignoratio elenchi about it.
 
Kudos for crowbarring such a redoubtable word into your post, but the way this Cameron/Osborne stuff is bandied about as compelling evidence to refute anyone suggesting leaving the EU will be anything other than a hugely positive experience for the nation, has more than a little ignoratio elenchi about it.

Another fucking understatement...
 
Predictions of worst case scenarios that don’t come true due to work done to mitigate them is different to saying things that aren’t true at the point of saying them
So, these people were either extremely bad at making predictions because they were unable to factor in the possibility that we’d actually do something to mitigate the outcomes being predicted, or they were deliberately lying to the British people to frighten them into voting Remain? Either way, you want us to listen to their new predictions of doom and gloom and accept that they know what they are doing and are acting in good faith?
 
I can't really help you there as I wasn't aware that any deal was on offer in 2016. Indeed the only one I'm aware of is the deal brokered by Mrs May and rejected by parliament. If there was another deal, then please excuse my ignorance.
We could be like Norway. Farage's deal.
We could be like Canada. Johnson's deal.
Lots of deals, easy. Davis.
We will still be in a free trade zone from Iceland to the Russian border. Official Leave deal (well, rather a lie about the default position if there were no deal).
Leavers who advocated no deal. No bugger.

There is no mandate for no deal.
 
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