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Of course my post is pointless......you dont agree with it.

Voted Labour all my life yet agree that we should leave the EU as per the result of the EU ref and according to Bluemoon i am now a rabid right winger.

Could have sworn you have said you would back the Tories and a Tory PM Johnson in the next election. A Tory administration that even some Tories find too right wing. Not sure you’re going to get much sympathy on here :)
 
I didn't jump into bed with anyone.

I was asked a question by parliament and i gave my answer.

You not liking it or the fact a majority agreed with my has left you wanting to label and put people into boxes to help denigrate and claim some form of moral high ground.
You're deliberately conflating your vote for Brexit with your vote for Farage. I fully agree that people right across the political spectrum voted in good faith for Brexit, however for anyone to vote for Farage, with his far extreme right credentials clear for all to see, must have some sympathies in that direction. Either that or they are capable of wilfully ignoring all the evidence of his extreme position on the political spectrum.
 
You're deliberately conflating your vote for Brexit with your vote for Farage. I fully agree that people right across the political spectrum voted in good faith for Brexit, however for anyone to vote for Farage, with his far extreme right credentials clear for all to see, must have some sympathies in that direction. Either that or they are capable of wilfully ignoring all the evidence of his extreme position on the political spectrum.

I am capable of agreeing with him and millions of others from right across the political spectrum that we voted to leave the EU and leave we should.

Given that i will vote in such a way as to try and make that happen in the exact same way you will vote to remain.
 
I am capable of agreeing with him and millions of others from right across the political spectrum that we voted to leave the EU and leave we should.

Given that i will vote in such a way as to try and make that happen in the exact same way you will vote to remain.
I would never vote for any party whose leader had views and behaviour as abhorrent as Farage, irrespective of whether I agreed with his main policy.
I guess you're one of those "Ends justify the means" type people.
 
Sumption is spot on.

Hopefully the Supreme court will agree.
'Marxist John' coming up now - wonder if Boulton will have a crack? Just accused McDonnell of lying about FT support for Labour's worker control policies. Simply a winning smile and a shrug of the shoulders - apparently a 100 economists wrote to the FT agreeing with him lol
 
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I would never vote for any party whose leader had views and behaviour as abhorrent as Farage, irrespective of whether I agreed with his main policy.
I guess you're one of those "Ends justify the means" type people.

You can guess what I am as much as you like.
 
They spend 75% of the time telling us the only deal on offer has already been given and the EU wont renegotiate and 25% of the time telling us they will renegotiate.

They will revoke, as per the memberships instructions but wont be honest about it because they know with a GE coming up they will suffer.
They have said they will offer a “viable” leave option. I didn’t think they believed the WA fell into that category
 
They have said they will offer a “viable” leave option. I didn’t think they believed the WA fell into that category

Promising to be all things to all men on brexit is an impossibility.

They refused to vote for, as did the ERG lot, the only deal on offer according to them so talk of negotiating a different one to appease leave voters whilst campaigning to remain appeasing remain simply is the stuff of a fantasist.

Unworkable, undeliverable and never going too happen.
 
Im on 4 very different types of forums, and this one is significantly right wing biased in comparison, well the politics sub forum anyways.

It is predominantly right wing in the number of vocal posters.

Whether it is predominantly right wing terms in terms of occasional posters is another issue. The right have been emboldened by brexit and I do understand why some on the right feel so aggrieved when it comes to down to brexit. It is hard to come to terms with the fact you have been sold a second hand Nissan Micra when you were promised a Lamborghini Countach.

What is surprising though is that the ire of those on the right/leave is aimed not at the people who sold them the car, it is aimed at the people who warned them that the car was an old banger.

Instead of taking those salesman to the cleaners for their lies and snake oil, they have turned it on those who are not responsible for the sales pitch. You do not see a leave supporter posting their dissapointment in the right wing politicians like Farage, Cameron, Osborne, Johnson and Gove who have told lie after lie after lie, they blame Corbyn and Labour for something that was not their responsibilty in the first place.

When they are pulled up for believing the sales pitch they react like anybody who has been the victim of a con, they feel shame and become more entrenched in their view that they are not to blame. They don't own up for buying the Nissan Micra they prevaricate and turn their anger on to those who are not in any way responsible. They have been manipulated by extremists and dare I say it radicalised by the nutjobs into believing the Nissan Micra is an actual Lamborghini.

Surely what all of us wanted was honesty, a true reflection of what was and what is, a true picture of what is too come instead we were all the victims of nefarious vested interests seeking to manipulate us for personal gain. The noble causes were lost in this fog of lies and mistruths, and as a nation we have all, leave or remain suffered at the hands of these shadowy people who use us all for their personal advantage.

Churchill once said "What is the use of living, if it be not to strive for noble causes and to make the muddled world a better place for those who live in it after we are gone"

Can any of the clowns who have brought us to this place, even contemplate those words of one of the greatest Prime Ministers in our history?
 

These events have been discussed over and over...his meeting with and talking to terrorists can be construed in many ways...now firstly, i am not a fan of Corbyn but secondly, the fact that the British establishment reached out and spoke with republicans paved the way and established dialogue which eventually lead to peace.
Im not saying he was responsible for the GFA..becasue he wasnt...but his and many others efforts helped create links
 
It is predominantly right wing in the number of vocal posters.

71,022 members and i can probably count on one hand those who regularly post in favour of brexit.

You are of course right though Rascal, its a den of right wingers this place.
 
Promising to be all things to all men on brexit is an impossibility.

They refused to vote for, as did the ERG lot, the only deal on offer according to them so talk of negotiating a different one to appease leave voters whilst campaigning to remain appeasing remain simply is the stuff of a fantasist.

Unworkable, undeliverable and never going too happen.

Not undeliverable.

The EU will accept a new deal which includes closer ties. They have already said so.
 
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