Plus, Hitler wasn’t a compromise sort of guy.
He's up to something I think.
I don't know what, but my gut says he'll do something to ensure that his written request will be rejected by at least one country.
We can only hope so
I would like him to fuck right off
Just get Brexit done first
It seems strange - all this exultation about him having to back down. As if this is going to damage him - humiliate him - why on earth would it?
Surely it just strengthens the narrative of him striving to get Brexit done but the EU sycophants and elite are preventing him
Plays well for a GE I think
?? Seriously....
If he has gotten an EU country to agree to block an extension - I really doubt that is the case - would people not at least recognise that as a pretty shrewd move.
Irrespective of being a Remainer or Leaver surely people can all say - clever ****?
We have had years of the EU using their Westminster sycophants to do their work and that has been applauded - so why would this be more reprehensible?
No we haven't - that is just another way of saying Leavers are thick - yawn
We actually do know what we are supporting and the detail of things - if this thread is anything to go by we clearly know a lot more than Remainers.
The rewards are magnificent https://unitynewsnetwork.co.uk/lib-dems-leader/
I've suggested as much elsewhere in the thread, we don't have long to wait to see what's going to happen anywayHe's Best Friends Forever with the head of Hungary. There's the chap who could reject it.
Perhaps be careful not to treat the UK in the way that Germany was treated after WW1????After WW I we along with the other Allies imposed severe reparations and a ‘guilt clause’ on Germany as part of the Peace settlement. What we got back was Hitler and WW II.
After WW II we took a different approach and the Americans gave billions in aid to rebuild Germany. What we got back second time around was peace and a prosperous Europe.
There is probably a lesson in there somewhere.
It’s Metal Biker that’s searching for compromise, not me.If Leave had compromised after the referendum or offered a compromise plan then a lot of us would have got on board. In December 2016 the Scottish Govt proposed a compromise plan. It was ignored in favour of cake, unicorns and crushing the EU.
For three fucking years all we have had is what you fuckers want and now you want compromise? Well boo fucking hoo. Listen we were promised sunlit uplands and it all being over by Christmas 2016. Now either the Brexit mob ante up with the promises or they can do one.
He’s probably referring to the likes of Osborne stating about a week before the vote that if Leave won, he would call an emergency budget and stick 2p on income tax. I reckon that secured a few votes for the Remain side. It actually had the opposite effect on me and pissed me off to the point that I went from being 60-40 Remain to 60-40 Leave!
I admire your effort MB, but for me there is a real 'balance issue' here.With both sides reaching a level of maturity to accept that neither group is going to get everything it wants from brexit, but refusing to carry it out or going gung ho is going to be incredibly damaging.
You want a no deal brexit and a crippled economy with issues in Northern Ireland? Fine, but own it.
You want to remain in the EU, creating a crisis of confidence in our Parliament and parliamentarians, forcing the eurosceptics to become more emboldened and extreme? Fine, but own it.
You want a compromise to avoid both of those scenarios? Then accept aspects of brexit you may not have wanted, but are essentially what you voted for.
I know, but at the next election these are the two Remain options on offer. So if you want to see the referendum result implemented you can’t vote Labour or LibDem. I think this will prove to be a major mistake by both these parties.Your ‘two camps’ wholly inadequately represents the gamut of opinion within those who voted to remain, and significantly so.
That's the game you won 52/48 ? The zero sum game where we were asked if we blamed Brussels or Westminster for our imagined plight?Quite a lot of Remainers had no affection for the EU and would have voted Leave if the PM and Chancellor hadn’t scared them to death with their lies. Both sides can play that game ;)
They will not have 'colluded' in any manner that is 'provable' - neither did the EU when meeting with their sycophants ahead of drafting their recent law to help them.No I'd say foriegn collusion is not a shrewd move, seeing as it's illegal.
I’m sorry, the referendum has proved that large numbers of British people are unhappy with the direction of travel that the EU has taken and this isn’t going to change. The cat is out of the bag and isn’t going back in until the referendum result is implemented. You can cry about it, bitch about it, get angry about it, refuse to accept it, but the conflict and controversy will NEVER go away until we have left. After this has been done you can start your campaign to rejoin, and if the people of this country aren’t happy with life outside the EU sooner or later they will vote for a party giving them that option, that’s how democracy works.That's the game you won 52/48 ? The zero sum game where we were asked if we blamed Brussels or Westminster for our imagined plight?
I don't think you can say it was a lie though. The bloke got fired before he could do it.
And IMO you were an idiot (sorry!) changing your mind on that basis. 99% of economic analysts and economics experts said it would be a shit show, because er, guess what, it is.
Might do , then again might not.I’m sorry, the referendum has proved that large numbers of British people are unhappy with the direction of travel that the EU has taken and this isn’t going to change. The cat is out of the bag and isn’t going back in until the referendum result is implemented. You can cry about it, bitch about it, get angry about it, refuse to accept it, but the conflict and controversy will NEVER go away until we have left. After this has been done you can start your campaign to rejoin, and if the people of this country aren’t happy with life outside the EU sooner or later they will vote for a party giving them that option, that’s how democracy works.
They will not have 'colluded' in any manner that is 'provable' - neither did the EU when meeting with their sycophants ahead of drafting their recent law to help them.
Seems shrewd to me
Johnson had previously articulated the dangers of leaving the EU.
He is a lying self serving ****.
Are you okay with collusion then?
Are you okay with collusion then?
Well said - they are mainly in the rigged referendum group IMOSorry bud, it ain’t happening. Remainers have split into two camps, revoke article 50 and fuck those who voted Leave, or offer a rigged referendum with a Leave Option that the vast majority of Leavers hate, which has a pretence of being democratic but effectively fucks Leave voters over as well. Not much compromise on offer there, or is it only Leavers that are supposed to compromise?