Re-watch the PMs speech on the referendum prior to the 2016 vote note and inwardly digest. because he clearly says it is just to be sure people knew what they were voting for.
No it wasn’t. But those were the only 2 options on the ballot paper. If you want to blame anyone, blame the likes of Cameron for allowing the referendum in the first place.
You can’t blame the public for this, and calling them thick or whatever because they’re not experts on the intricacies of how the EU works is a bit off. Especially as Jeremy Fucking Corbyn has been voting against the EU all his political life and then gets a free pass for conveniently switching to Remain once he became leader of Labour Party, yet those who get only one chance (some twice) to vote in their lifetime get slagged off by the same people who blow smoke up Corbyn’s arse for daring to vote Leave.
Nothing binds them to do so. They're sovereign. Their power is absolute. The only time the electorate are sovereign in the UK is on GE day and they lose that the second they vote.Not required for Parliament to honour its own promises, they just have to ensure the UK leaves the EU.
That is pure nonsense, Parliament is sovereign, it has bound itself.Parliament are sovereign and cannot be bound. You fail to recognise this.
Parliament are sovereign and cannot be bound. You fail to recognise this.
(A no deal brexit) Or is it bound to remain in the EU. So where are we at?Correct. Parliament is sovereign and is not bound to deliver brexit.
Or they didn't know what to vote as one side didn't explain anything and one side lied through it's arse. It's the ones voting on something that they knew nothing about are to blame. Why vote for something so important that you know fuck all about. Just stupidThe 1/3rd dont matter. By not voting they essentially say they dont care.
Tough!
That's true but it does not make the referendum result any less binding on Parliament. You will have noticed that it turned out there was no illegal activity by Vote Leave but even if there was it is irrelevant to the democratic mandate brought into being. Every MP now accepts this.
I think you are correct, but it has to be done in such a way as to not leave,anyone in parliament 'to blame'. This is why a people's vote is vital so it becomes the electorates fault.Prediction - Brexit is never going to happen
I'm deeply worried about the potential for unrest with the unionists up north tbh, Johnson fucked up badly by not selling it to the DUP before it became public and they need to be mollified now, I've said all along you lot can do what you want as long as whatever happens to NI has cross community support.Much as I hate to agree with you, for once, this is spot on. I said at the time that this issue was far to complicated for most people to understand. I know some people on here know a great deal about the issues involved and made an educated decision one way or the other but the problem was that for most(?) people this was an issue they didn’t understand and probably didn’t even bother to try and understand. Reversing 40 years of EU was never, ever going to be easy.
Personally, I can’t see any way we can have a ‘leave’ without a backstop(even Boris has one) in which case it looks like we are casting NI adrift no matter what Boris says.
How do any of our NI (or Irish) fans feel about this?
And this is the problem... we're winning.... you're winning. It's not a bloody game.But it can be changed so whilst you and other remainers think you are winning, its temporary.
Its as temporary as next week in all reality.
But it can be changed so whilst you and other remainers think you are winning, its temporary.
Its as temporary as next week in all reality.
It hasn't. It can pass a motion or act on Monday and revoke it or repeal it on Tuesday.That is pure nonsense, Parliament is sovereign, it has bound itself.
(A no deal brexit) Or is it bound to remain in the EU. So where are we at?
It's not the truth, Mike, it's bollocks.Must have hit a nerve truth hurts
Or they didn't know what to vote as one side didn't explain anything and one side lied through it's arse.
Yes it can be changed. That's the third option, a GE to change the arithmetic. Btw thinking Brexit is a fucking stupid idea doesn't make me a remainer, I think you need to leave for your sake as well as ours.But it can be changed so whilst you and other remainers think you are winning, its temporary.
Its as temporary as next week in all reality.
that's exactly what sovereignty means, I think you're beginning to get it ....It hasn't. It can pass a motion or act on Monday and revoke it or repeal it on Tuesday.
Oh i blame cameron alright,the average person in the street with busy lives didn't understand what voting leave would mean,not their fault ,i didn't understand what leave meant so i didn't vote to leave,we were told lies by both sides,now we know what it means i can't accept the view that people are fed up with it so lets vote for a bad deal,people need to take a breath,have the deal explained properly and vote on itNo it wasn’t. But those were the only 2 options on the ballot paper. If you want to blame anyone, blame the likes of Cameron for allowing the referendum in the first place.
You can’t blame the public for this, and calling them thick or whatever because they’re not experts on the intricacies of how the EU works is a bit off. Especially as Jeremy Fucking Corbyn has been voting against the EU all his political life and then gets a free pass for conveniently switching to Remain once he became leader of Labour Party, yet those who get only one chance (some twice) to vote in their lifetime get slagged off by the same people who blow smoke up Corbyn’s arse for daring to vote Leave.
Yeah right.
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