Because your “opposing view” will damage every one of us and our families for years to come. That’s why. An opinion does not have equal validity to another opinion if one is backed with evidence and the other is not.
But there is no evidence. Nobody really knows what will happen.
I strongly believe that the EU will collapse sonner rather than later and when it does blood will be shed. Thats my belief but I could be wrong only time will tell.
But there is no evidence. Nobody really knows what will happen.
I strongly believe that the EU will collapse sonner rather than later and when it does blood will be shed. Thats my belief but I could be wrong only time will tell.
I believe that the Britain is better in the EU because of increased trade, a better economy, increased collaboration, a stronger pound and increased security. I believe that countries prosper when part of a bigger trade group. I believe that it is better for the country to allow its citizens to have the right to study, work, live or retire abroad. I believe that being part of the Eu improves the international standing of the country, and improves relationships with our nearest neighbours. I can produce a mountain of irrefutable evidence for every one of those points.
You believe that the Eu will collapse and have no evidence whatsoever beyond “your belief”.
Our two opinions are not equivalent.
You strike me as the kind of guy that always leaves the house with an umbrella, even if it’s clear blue skies and 30 degrees.
Because your “opposing view” will damage every one of us and our families for years to come. That’s why. An opinion does not have equal validity to another opinion if one is backed with evidence and the other is not.
My opinion has as much validity as yours. Your so called evidence is only opinion. You have no facts to back up your opinions simply because we have not left. In fact many of the leave campaign's dire predictions about the effects to the UK economy immediately after a leave vote never came through did they? I suppose these were some of your so called facts that you choose to forget?? Anyway weve been here many times before. Regardless of the above my other point was why do you amoungst others on here feel the need to be rude to other posters just because their opinion is different to yours. Please answer that question.
Think that is a little below the belt. But they do remind me James O'Brien on LBC, he is by far the rudest, belittling and self righteous presenter on LBC. Far more so than the right wing presenters.The rude bit seems to be a trait that most remainers on here have a compulsion for. They do in many respects remind me of Liverpool fans.
Think that is a little below the belt. But they do remind me James O'Brien on LBC, he is by far the rudest, belittling and self righteous presenter on LBC. Far more so than the right wing presenters.
We were told we'd still be in a free trade zone from Iceland to the Russian border. That sounded pretty soft.At your age mate I can sympathise with you not remembering what a 'Hard' one is.
However just to correct you for the record - whilst it is correct to say we were told during the referendum campaign that leaving the EU meant leaving the single market ( albeit that's not the case in theory - Norway) we were NOT told that leaving the EU meant leaving the customs union.
My opinion has as much validity as yours. Your so called evidence is only opinion. You have no facts to back up your opinions simply because we have not left. In fact many of the leave campaign's dire predictions about the effects to the UK economy immediately after a leave vote never came through did they? I suppose these were some of your so called facts that you choose to forget?? Anyway weve been here many times before. Regardless of the above my other point was why do you amoungst others on here feel the need to be rude to other posters just because their opinion is different to yours. Please answer that question.
Think that is a little below the belt. But they do remind me James O'Brien on LBC, he is by far the rudest, belittling and self righteous presenter on LBC. Far more so than the right wing presenters.
What historical evidence is there to suggest the EU might fail? I’ve lived in the EU all my life and taken full advantage of the benefits it had to offer. To this day, I still don’t see a future of failure, in fact, most Europeans are still completely behind the EU.Actually there is plenty of historical evidence to suggest it will fail.
We both have opinions neither can be proved and only time will tell.
I actually agree with much of what you saybut think the EU is headed beyond all the positives you rightly point out and there for me lies the problem. We do however differ in so much as you clearly think your opinion is a superior one to mine where as I accept yours as a possibility and am not so arrogant as to think you are of superior intellect to some one who views things differently. Sadly a trait of most leavers I find. My vote was and would be again marginal however I maintain...just that to leave would be better in the long term.
Under any of the current political leaders in this country I do however believe that it would be a absolute disaster in the short to medium term.
What historical evidence is there to suggest the EU might fail? I’ve lived in the EU all my life and taken full advantage of the benefits it had to offer. To this day, I still don’t see a future of failure, in fact, most Europeans are still completely behind the EU.
I like and respect your answer, honestly. It’s a fear I have. However, I‘ve been living on the continent for 18 years now and nobody I know wants the EU to dissolve. If the EU does indeed collapse, it will be the fault of politicians and not the people. The main difference between the Soviet Union, Yugoslavia and the EU is that the EU is a confederation that people choose to join willingly. The other two weren’t. That is the strength of the EUI have previously written at length why I hold these views. I cannot really be bothered to do so again but in a nutshell I do not believe you can bolt all the different nations and cultures together and expect them to all work and live the same. That is just with with indigenous people. Thats before you take the huge amount of immigrants and asylum seekers from beyond the borders of the EU. Add to this a clear ambition of ever closer union and federalisation and I think you have a huge Yugoslavia or Soviet Union. Gorby called it a new Soviet Union wearing a western suit which I think covers it.
For me its a matter of time before it goes the same way as Yugoslavia and the USSR.
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I like and respect your answer, honestly. It’s a fear I have. However, I‘ve been living on the continent for 18 years now and nobody I know wants the EU to dissolve. If the EU does indeed collapse, it will be the fault of politicians and not the people. The main difference between the Soviet Union, Yugoslavia and the EU is that the EU is a confederation that people choose to join willingly. The other two weren’t. That is the strength of the EU
He's referring to the Government's own predictions regarding the negative economic effects of Brexit.My opinion has as much validity as yours. Your so called evidence is only opinion. You have no facts to back up your opinions simply because we have not left. In fact many of the leave campaign's dire predictions about the effects to the UK economy immediately after a leave vote never came through did they? I suppose these were some of your so called facts that you choose to forget?? Anyway weve been here many times before. Regardless of the above my other point was why do you amoungst others on here feel the need to be rude to other posters just because their opinion is different to yours. Please answer that question.
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I like and respect your answer, honestly. It’s a fear I have. However, I‘ve been living on the continent for 18 years now and nobody I know wants the EU to dissolve. If the EU does indeed collapse, it will be the fault of politicians and not the people. The main difference between the Soviet Union, Yugoslavia and the EU is that the EU is a confederation that people choose to join willingly. The other two weren’t. That is the strength of the EU