kevin horlocks wand
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Oh dear
Oh dear
Fucking embarrassing
AlexWilliamsGloves
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Well i made no such suggestion, however....if its so despicable for him to meet such people, who helped such a momentous shift in society....is it acceptable for the SoS to be meeting with these terrorists....hosting a dinner/lunch/whatever merely to discuss their concerns over Brexit...whilst they continue to main, kill, bully and terrorise my City...as well as threatening whatever checks/border/solution is arrived at in NI
Ifwecouldjust.......
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He was awarded a Peace prize for his work on the GFA ..........FFS
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Ifwecouldjust.......
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It will be so easy they promised
https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/p...ritain-as-australia-rejects-trade-deal/07/01/
https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/p...ritain-as-australia-rejects-trade-deal/07/01/
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Hahahahahahhaahha
No he fucking didn’t.
Please check your stuff before spouting this utter nonsense:
You’ve got mixed up by his award here and the interview below:
https://www.channel4.com/news/factc...e-media-ignored-good-news-about-jeremy-corbyn
https://evolvepolitics.com/nobel-pe...s-permission-to-use-clip-they-used-it-anyway/
Funny isn't it and did Corbyn actually do anything at all on the GFA?
From what I gather all he did was meet the IRA, call them his friends and then attempt to bring them to the table to meet the people he has sided against his whole life.
Even if Corbyn won a noble prize, he still got in bed with a group that was responsible for the deaths of British citizens including an elected MP!
He has always sided against British interests, against the British armed forces and against any difficult decision that may of been taken to defend our interests.
His failure and him stepping down is an excellent result for our security.
Corrected .....
He won an Irish award, a leftist one in the name of an ex IRA chief, in 2017, alongside two other people.
The UK doesn’t even recognise it.
You made it sound like he’d been given THE globally recognised award, everyone has heard of.
Really poor way of either misleading people or not knowing the facts, take your pick.
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oh do fuck off
No.
AlexWilliamsGloves
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Funny isn't it and did Corbyn actually do anything at all on the GFA?
From what I gather all he did was meet the IRA, call them his friends and then attempt to bring them to the table to meet the people he has sided against his whole life.
Even if Corbyn won a noble prize, he still got in bed with a group that was responsible for the deaths of British citizens including an elected MP!
He has always sided against British interests, against the British armed forces and against any difficult decision that may of been taken to defend our interests.
His failure and him stepping down is an excellent result for our security.
Every person involved with the GFA met with and negotiated with the IRA...and the UDA and the UVF and the Red Hand Commandos. This is seen as either a good thing, or a bad thing.
What im asking, is if it is ok for the SoS to be meeting with current, active terrorists?
Are you's happy or willing to accept the government to be doing so or not?
AlexWilliamsGloves
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I wasnt asking tbh
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I wasnt asking tbh
Possibly not but I am most definitely telling.
AlexWilliamsGloves
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Possibly not but I am most definitely telling.
Terrorist enabler / sympathiser
Well i made no such suggestion, however....if its so despicable for him to meet such people, who helped such a momentous shift in society....is it acceptable for the SoS to be meeting with these terrorists....hosting a dinner/lunch/whatever merely to discuss their concerns over Brexit...whilst they continue to main, kill, bully and terrorise my City...as well as threatening whatever checks/border/solution is arrived at in NI
The context around the meetings is the most important factor and the UK government doing so, with its enemies, to broker peace, is different than a person who’s a back bencher and doing so as agrees with their position.
Nebuchadnezzar
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Well i made no such suggestion, however....if its so despicable for him to meet such people, who helped such a momentous shift in society....is it acceptable for the SoS to be meeting with these terrorists....hosting a dinner/lunch/whatever merely to discuss their concerns over Brexit...whilst they continue to main, kill, bully and terrorise my City...as well as threatening whatever checks/border/solution is arrived at in NI
I think we might be able to summarise that terrorists are okay as long as they're the ones your side like.
AlexWilliamsGloves
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The context around the meetings is the most important factor and the UK government doing so, with its enemies, to broker peace, is different than a person who’s a back bencher and doing so as agrees with their position.
Aw mate, we agree on a lot of things, but this is stretching things purely for the hatred of Corbyn. Whether he was a back bencher or not...he clearly had (positive) influence...obviously he would be involved.
Why is their (IRA) position different/worse than that of the other sides (UVF/UDA) position....they are all hateful murdering terrorists
Ifwecouldjust.......
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Funny isn't it and did Corbyn actually do anything at all on the GFA?
From what I gather all he did was meet the IRA, call them his friends and then attempt to bring them to the table to meet the people he has sided against his whole life.
Even if Corbyn won a noble prize, he still got in bed with a group that was responsible for the deaths of British citizens including an elected MP!
He has always sided against British interests, against the British armed forces and against any difficult decision that may of been taken to defend our interests.
His failure and him stepping down is an excellent result for our security.
You need to ask Mo Mowlem then .... cos he did a lot of heavy lifting for her to get a place where they were even prepared to talk about peace.
Ifwecouldjust.......
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I think we might be able to summarise that terrorists are okay as long as they're the ones your side like.
One mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter....
Well that's not going to happen.You need to ask Mo Mowlem then .... cos he did a lot of heavy lifting for her to get a place where they were even prepared to talk about peace.
Aw mate, we agree on a lot of things, but this is stretching things purely for the hatred of Corbyn. Whether he was a back bencher or not...he clearly had (positive) influence...obviously he would be involved.
Why is their (IRA) position different/worse than that of the other sides (UVF/UDA) position....they are all hateful murdering terrorists
The last paragraph I wholeheartedly agree, people in England will view the IRA as worse as there are victims here but putting myself in the shoes of a moderate Catholic in NI, of course they are both murdering scum.
Corbyn doesn’t sit well with me because he was seemingly closer and attended the infamous funeral, however this isn’t that much of a cause for concern for me and it’s not a totally biased view against him by the way. I was actually playing devil’s advocate earlier by asking those questions rather than suggesting anything.
My view, as you know, is we should have dropped this shit long ago and it serves no purpose continually bringing it up. Obviously Brexit and the WA has meant we need to talk about it now and I don’t blame either side for communicating.
Corbyn probably did help to some degree, the IRA were certainly less likely to bomb if a British politician was talking with them. He did get too close for comfort though and his ally and former lover, Abbott, said a truly horrific thing as a standing British MP. A woman who would have been his Home Secretary in his Cabinet.
Looking at it objectively, Corbyn being close to Adams (who’s first cousin once removed I’m good mates with for what it’s worth) and what happened does leave me with some concern but the antisemitism for me is what killed my support for him and Labour.
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Every person involved with the GFA met with and negotiated with the IRA...and the UDA and the UVF and the Red Hand Commandos. This is seen as either a good thing, or a bad thing.
What im asking, is if it is ok for the SoS to be meeting with current, active terrorists?
Are you's happy or willing to accept the government to be doing so or not?
Meeting the IRA to achieve peace is very different to showing years of sympathy and accommodation to the armed struggle against the very people you supposedly represent.....
Mcdonnell himself has said that IRA bullets and bombs were necessary and neither he nor Corbyn has ever approved of the British right to defend its territory.
Neither can ever be allowed near power and thankfully they never will be.
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