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Well the British government is currently discussing Brexit with current active Terrorists who are threatening to attack "border" installations and the movement of goods INSIDE the UK.

They are threatening to attack and disrupt Britain / UK from the inside.

What is going to be done about it? Give in to them? Fight them? Intern them? Shoot them from the top of flats as they peacefully protest? Work with them to get a solution?
 
inbetween said:
Meeting the IRA to achieve peace is very different to showing years of sympathy and accommodation to the armed struggle against the very people you supposedly represent.....

Mcdonnell himself has said that IRA bullets and bombs were necessary and neither he nor Corbyn has ever approved of the British right to defend its territory.

Neither can ever be allowed near power and thankfully they never will be.
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Is it though? Is it really different.....because his, and many others opinions were tested, negotiated and conceded for the greater good. Again, i dont like the man and wouldnt vote for him....but why harangue him continuously for beliefs that brought amazing positive results....when this current government are now meeting with active terrorists.
 
AlexWilliamsGloves said:
Is it though? Is it really different.....because his, and many others opinions were tested, negotiated and conceded for the greater good. Again, i dont like the man and wouldnt vote for him....but why harangue him continuously for beliefs that brought amazing positive results....when this current government are now meeting with active terrorists.
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The government of 1997, as in those actually on the front benches, deserves more credit than Corbyn and McDonnell.
 
Ifwecouldjust....... said:
He was awarded a Peace prize for his work on the GFA ..........FFS
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AlexWilliamsGloves said:
Is it though? Is it really different.....because his, and many others opinions were tested, negotiated and conceded for the greater good. Again, i dont like the man and wouldnt vote for him....but why harangue him continuously for beliefs that brought amazing positive results....when this current government are now meeting with active terrorists.
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Would we say that Corbyn approached the IRA from the point of view of a British MP representing what was best for British interests, of course not.

Corbyn constantly attacked the actions of the British army whilst he showed sympathy to the IRA's use of violence to forward their interests.

Again, there is a big difference between dialogue and actively taking a side.

Anyway, this is a thread on Brexit.
 
Ifwecouldjust....... said:
We will be punished , simple as that. A shot across the bows to stop any other country from leaving. We are about to enter a very dark period in British history which will begin with an immediate call for independence by Scotland and followed by reunification of Ireland. Possibly the deepest longest recession ever experienced and further cuts due to austerity.
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Just for balance - should you not have started that post with either:

In my humble opinion ……….

Or and I recognise that you may think that this is a step too far.....?


In my humble opinion and not withstanding that I have been proven to be wrong so often...….​
 
inbetween said:
Would we say that Corbyn approached the IRA from the point of view of a British MP representing what was best for British interests, of course not.

Corbyn constantly attacked the actions of the British army whilst he showed sympathy to the IRA's use of violence to forward their interests.

Again, there is a big difference between dialogue and actively taking a side.

Anyway, this is a thread on Brexit.
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This is just bullshit....just making up statements for the sake of it. He is a member of the Labour party, for how many years? Involved in British politics...he is the leader of the opposition. Do you genuinely believe for his entire career as a politician he is not working for what he thinks is best for British interests? Really?

You are basically suggesting he was either in the 'RA or was "actively" assisting them with their campaigns.

What he did (as a very small part of a very large team) was absolutely the best for British interests. Noone was taking sides....if people took sides there wouldnt have been a GFA.
 
inbetween said:
Would we say that Corbyn approached the IRA from the point of view of a British MP representing what was best for British interests, of course not.

Corbyn constantly attacked the actions of the British army whilst he showed sympathy to the IRA's use of violence to forward their interests.

Again, there is a big difference between dialogue and actively taking a side.

Anyway, this is a thread on Brexit.
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Corbyn's peace was the one that was directed by the IRA, no minutes silences for murdered British troops, no invitations
for the UDA to parliament, just a fervent hope that a united Ireland should be on the terms dictated by the IRA.
The man is a known terrorist supporter/appeaser, and it's always those who seek to harm Britain and the west who he embraces.
That this odious, perpetual student is still spouting his shit in parliament is beyond parody, anyone else would have
gone immediately, but the daft talking shop that is Labour just staggers on.
 
Ancient Citizen said:
Corbyn's peace was the one that was directed by the IRA, no minutes silences for murdered British troops, no invitations
for the UDA to parliament, just a fervent hope that a united Ireland should be on the terms dictated by the IRA.
The man is a known terrorist supporter/appeaser, and it's always those who seek to harm Britain and the west who he embraces.
That this odious, perpetual student is still spouting his shit in parliament is beyond parody, anyone else would have
gone immediately, but the daft talking shop that is Labour just staggers on.
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Directed by the IRA?...of FFS......im sure all those released loyalists are very grateful for the consideration

And seriously, why on earth would the UDA be invited to parliament...seriously, please answer that one question....why should the UDA be invited to parliament?
 
AlexWilliamsGloves said:
This is just bullshit....just making up statements for the sake of it. He is a member of the Labour party, for how many years? Involved in British politics...he is the leader of the opposition. Do you genuinely believe for his entire career as a politician he is not working for what he thinks is best for British interests? Really?

You are basically suggesting he was either in the 'RA or was "actively" assisting them with their campaigns.

What he did (as a very small part of a very large team) was absolutely the best for British interests. Noone was taking sides....if people took sides there wouldnt have been a GFA.
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Eh?

John Mcdonnell said that the use of bombs and bullets by the IRA was necessary. The IRA even killed a Tory MP in the 80's although judging off Mcdonnell's Thatcher assassination comments he probably isn't bothered.

How is that in our interests?

Can you show me where Corbyn has even supported the British right to defence? He won't even defend us with nuclear weapons if he absolutely had to.

This is the man who has also said that he would give the Falklands to Argentina. This is despite knowing that 99% of the Falklands don't want that and despite people dying in the Falklands war for it.

It is on record that our intelligence leaders have said that he is not fit to be trusted with intelligence information let alone command over our armed forces.

The promise of a socialist utopia won't change the fact that he and his mates are a group of highly dangerous individuals with a highly questionable past.
 
AlexWilliamsGloves said:
Directed by the IRA?...of FFS......im sure all those released loyalists are very grateful for the consideration

And seriously, why on earth would the UDA be invited to parliament...seriously, please answer that one question....why should the UDA be invited to parliament?
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They shouldn't have, so why were IRA members invited to parliament, by Corbyn?
The point is, Corbyn was no peace seeker, him and the other creep McDonnell are supporters of one side only,
McDonnell was actually forced to apologise FFS, plus, Corbyn was then, and still is, a perpetual terrorist appeaser,
who gained virtually NO coverage from the media at the time, for the sensible reason that he was viewed then, as now,
as just some far left backbench no mark.
 
inbetween said:
Eh?

John Mcdonnell said that the use of bombs and bullets by the IRA was necessary. The IRA even killed a Tory MP in the 80's although judging off Mcdonnell's Thatcher assassination comments he probably isn't bothered.

How is that in our interests?

Can you show me where Corbyn has even supported the British right to defence? He won't even defend us with nuclear weapons if he absolutely had to.

This is the man who has also said that he would give the Falklands to Argentina. This is despite knowing that 99% of the Falklands don't want that and despite people dying in the Falklands war for it.

It is on record that our intelligence leaders have said that he is not fit to be trusted with intelligence information let alone command over our armed forces.

The promise of a socialist utopia won't change the fact that he and his mates are a group of highly dangerous individuals with a highly questionable past.
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This.
 
inbetween said:
Eh?

John Mcdonnell said that the use of bombs and bullets by the IRA was necessary. The IRA even killed a Tory MP in the 80's although judging off Mcdonnell's Thatcher assassination comments he probably isn't bothered.

How is that in our interests?

Can you show me where Corbyn has even supported the British right to defence? He won't even defend us with nuclear weapons if he absolutely had to.

This is the man who has also said that he would give the Falklands to Argentina. This is despite knowing that 99% of the Falklands don't want that and despite people dying in the Falklands war for it.

It is on record that our intelligence leaders have said that he is not fit to be trusted with intelligence information let alone command over our armed forces.

The promise of a socialist utopia won't change the fact that he and his mates are a group of highly dangerous individuals with a highly questionable past.
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Youre conflating things for the sake of it.

What does McDonnell have to do with it? He's another aul cnut.

No i cant show you where he has ever supported the British right to defence....can you show me ANY politician's (relevant to this discussion) opinion on the matter? What on earth does his opinion on nuclear weapons have on his involvement with the GFA....you're just grasping at other irrelevant (to this discussion) points of view.

Id give the falklands back...if thats what they wanted....im pretty sure thats his opinion too. What about Northern Ireland....would you "hand us back" if thats what we all wanted. If so, surely thats pandering to the demands of the IRA....or something.

Im jealous of your access to our illustrious intelligence leaders and their opinions...but pretty interesting that you think our prime ministers (god forbid he ever became one) actually command over the armed forces.

Yet again, what are you on about socialist utopias for? This discussion "was" about the current british government inviting active terrorists to dinner to discuss their opinions on Brexit....and how this is just being accepted, despite the fact they are still killing people in my city. Yet all the outrage is still about Corbyns "membership of the IRA" despite the amazing results of the GFA.
 
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Ancient Citizen said:
They shouldn't have, so why were IRA members invited to parliament, by Corbyn?
The point is, Corbyn was no peace seeker, him and the other creep McDonnell are supporters of one side only,
McDonnell was actually forced to apologise FFS, plus, Corbyn was then, and still is, a perpetual terrorist appeaser,
who gained virtually NO coverage from the media at the time, for the sensible reason that he was viewed then, as now,
as just some far left backbench no mark.
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So what is your actual point? You are calling for the UDA to be invited to parliament, that absolutley should not happen....in the same way that the IRA must absilutely not be invited to parliament.

Corbyn was no peace seeker? - how on earth is that a true statement....you are literally just saying that cos you dont like him.

Well you are now a terrorist appeaser allowing your government to invite murderers out for lunch
 
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