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Gaudion M said:
So you have empathy in theory but don't expect to see any evidence of it.
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I have empathy for actual persons who were intending to do so. I still don't "care" in so many words, but...

I have every doubt that anyone on BM realistically planned to retire to the EU. It's the same voices using anything they can to denigrate brexit as "something evil", and it's completely wasted as it's just crocodile tears.
 
Gaudion M said:
I didn't before and i wont going forward, I never expected to. Its not relevant.

I did have the right to retire in the EU with all health care covered - that legal right is set to end in a couple of weeks.
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No, you had the privilege to do so.

And don't try and BS me that you were ever even going to.
 
aguerrrroooooooooooo said:
Stop b.s'ing and prove your assertion.
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Really?

As I should not need to explain something so simple, I am only seeking you to confirm that you do not know/understand. Otherwise, what is the point of me making the effort and of course don't want you saying that - "... yeah but of course - I knew that..." - try and answer quickly and not resort to Google
 
mcfc1632 said:
Really - as IU should not need to explain something so simple I am only seeking you to confirm that you do not know/understand - don't want you saying that - "... yeah but of courseI knew that..." - try and answer quickly and not resort to Google
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Ok so you can't prove your assertion and as usual you're full of crap. Can't say I'm surprised but hey gotta give everyone a chance
 
Mëtal Bikër said:
I have empathy for actual persons who were intending to do so. I still don't "care" in so many words, but...

I have every doubt that anyone on BM realistically planned to retire to the EU. It's the same voices using anything they can to denigrate brexit as "something evil", and it's completely wasted as it's just crocodile tears.
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I am retired and planned to move to the French property I have owned for 21 years in a few years.

Can’t now.
 
Chippy_boy said:
I am sorry, but you are just wrong.

(a) Post Brexit, you may very well need a visa
(b) You very well may not be allowed to stay and may be send back to the UK

Plenty of people are stopping you. Trying getting on a plane to the US without an ESTA. Good luck with that.
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I'd like to live in America. Would you support us becoming the 51st state please? If not, why not?

People from these islands have lived, loved, and worked in Europe for centuries. It might, possibly, become slightly more bureaucratic to do so in the future but no more so than it is to emigrate to Canada, America, South America.

Personally the ability of rich privileged gold-plated retirees to fuck off to the Costas wasmt a good enough reason for me to vote remain.

Wasn't then. Isn't now. Won't be tomorrow.
 
Mëtal Bikër said:
No, you had the privilege to do so.

And don't try and BS me that you were ever even going to.
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mate, none of their economic doomsday scenarios came true , it looks likely that they are not going to come true either. The Tories smashed the election and with that majority can just get on with it, these remainers on here were mainly left wing anti govt types.

Yet They claimed that they were protecting British business by opposing brexit. As they love big global business soooo much. Now it looks like they have lost that argument they are now the defenders of the right of rich to have a holiday home in the Mediterranean and if they don’t want a holiday home they now all are defending the right to retire to the Mediterranean.

In which case why were they so bothered about brexits impact on the uk if they were planning on leaving anyway?

just to calm their lofty ambitions large parts of the med would collapse without brits spending their retirement money in Spain and Portugal. They will be welcome.
 
smudgedj said:
Sure.
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Rich man with two properties, one abroad, lectures young man saddled with mountains of debt by his generation and living in a rented accomodation, about it now being slightly more expensive and inconvenient about living out dream retirement destination.

I'm writing the screenplay already, it'll be a real tearjerker ;)
 
Kazzydeyna said:
I'd like to live in America. Would you support us becoming the 51st state please? If not, why not?

People from these islands have lived, loved, and worked in Europe for centuries. It might, possibly, become slightly more bureaucratic to do so in the future but no more so than it is to emigrate to Canada, America, South America.

Personally the ability of rich privileged gold-plated retirees to fuck off to the Costas wasmt a good enough reason for me to vote remain.

Wasn't then. Isn't now. Won't be tomorrow.
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You offer me 51st State and all privileges it entails for the UK, i'll snap your hand off. :)
 
Still going on about this? Ffs.
When we are in the EU we have an unfettered legal right to live, work, travel in the EU. Entry cannot be refused, with exceptions for criminal activity. Maastricht Treaty.
Out of EU, we lose that right and have to apply and be subject to whatever regs and conditions the country we are visiting lays down. They have the right to refuse entry.
There is a difference between a legal right enshrined in a treaty, and permission.
Please get over it, becoming boring.
 
kevin horlocks wand said:
mate, none of their economic doomsday scenarios came true , it looks likely that they are not going to come true either. The Tories smashed the election and with that majority can just get on with it, these remainers on here were mainly left wing anti govt types.

Yet They claimed that they were protecting British business by opposing brexit. As they love big global business soooo much. Now it looks like they have lost that argument they are now the defenders of the right of rich to have a holiday home in the Mediterranean and if they don’t want a holiday home they now all are defending the right to retire to the Mediterranean.

In which case why were they so bothered about brexits impact on the uk if they were planning on leaving anyway?

just to calm their lofty ambitions large parts of the med would collapse without brits spending their retirement money in Spain and Portugal. They will be welcome.
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Mate, I just had to spend the last 10 pages explaining to them what I meant by "if you want to leave, then you still can". They're so melodramatic and becoming more sensitive with each passing day.

Is Europe the only destination in the world people from the UK can retire to? All those relatives of mine who went to Australia, are they floating on a boat somewhere?

If they feel it was their "human right" to live in Europe, then why wasn't that "Human right" extended to non-EU citizens? It's become slightly more inconvenient to retire to an EU country and they're making out like they're being denied access to clean drinking water. It's hilarious.
 
KS55 said:
Still going on about this? Ffs.
When we are in the EU we have an unfettered legal right to live, work, travel in the EU. Entry cannot be refused, with exceptions for criminal activity. Maastricht Treaty.
Out of EU, we lose that right and have to apply and be subject to whatever regs and conditions the country we are visiting lays down. They have the right to refuse entry.
There is a difference between a legal right enshrined in a treaty, and permission.
Please get over it, becoming boring.
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Yep, sadly.

But they need something to whinge about and they want everyone to know their hardship.
 
Mëtal Bikër said:
Mate, I just had to spend the last 10 pages explaining to them what I meant by "if you want to leave, then you still can". They're so melodramatic and becoming more sensitive with each passing day.

Is Europe the only destination in the world people from the UK can retire to? All those relatives of mine who went to Australia, are they floating on a boat somewhere?

If they feel it was their "human right" to live in Europe, then why wasn't that "Human right" extended to non-EU citizens? It's become slightly more inconvenient to retire to an EU country and they're making out like they're being denied access to clean drinking water. It's hilarious.
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If they are so committed they still have a couple of weeks left...
 
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