Another new Brexit thread

[mcfc1632]

Got to question the motives of a man who does nothing but lurk on a forum.

Creepy, ain't it.

I think that he is your stalker

He will be back in 2 months needing the fix he gets from you

 

[Vic]

Conformity of trade and rules! Are you deliberately obtuse?

No more than you are, fatty.

 

[mcfc1632]

what a charmer

Thank fuck we have people in positions of influence that work hard and don't need to take every self-serving opportunity to speak to cameras

We should all be pleased

 

[Vic]

I really cannot understand it

There are so many that seem to neeeed to run the country down so much - it is so palpable

This really is an appalling calumny. It's not Remainers who've put the country at such risk.

 

[Vic]

I see the EU still want to fish in British waters, cheeky fuckers.

Don't our guys want to catch scallops in French waters?

 

[Vic]

James O'Brien on LBC is another . Absolutely no balance what so ever in any of his arguments. And he's down right rude to those that dissagree with him.

You don't need balance with idiocy.

 

[Vic]

Very well said

Stone me. A "Well said" for quoting yourself.... Taking sycophancy to new levels.

 

[mcfc1632]

You think about me way too much.

Do you have a Gif or Meme that effectively portrays someone that sadly limps along craving the attention of someone they are obsessed with but is destined to only ever be of no importance to the object of their obsession;-)

It brings to mind that sad fucker in the film where Kevin Costner played a bodyguard - you know, the fella that was eventually proven to be innocent of planning harm to the Whitney Houston character

 

[Churchlawtonblue]

No more than you are, fatty.

Thanks for such a well thought out response!

 

[Vic]

Dont be daft mate. If the English wanted a referendum and it was supported by English MPs, they could have a referendum tomorrow because of the number breakdown of MP's. That doesn't apply to the other countries.

Perhaps our sovereign Parliament should have a system like, for instance, qualified majority voting in the EU - or even each member of the Union having a veto, like every EU country now has over any deal we want.

 

[mcfc1632]

Christ, there's some tragic saps out there. "Care in the community" has a lot to answer for.

He wasn't reported to be:

"Sat in Che Hababana on grand place sitting drinking a tom collins under a picture of Fidel Castro..." and having great fun dancing away with many nations in unity.....

was he;-)

 

[The Stockport Iniesta]

Don't our guys want to catch scallops in French waters?

Big difference in catching a few scallops, and the EU taking 60% of the catch in British waters mate.

 

[Vic]

Thanks for such a well thought out response!

Sorry, it was an old joke (which I suspect you missed).

 

[blueinsa]

you should start your post with 'in my opinion' ....cos thats all it is ....

Oh my fucking sides.....please stop :-)

 

[blueinsa]

Don't our guys want to catch scallops in French waters?

Can you get a cream for that?

 

[Saddleworth2]

You don't need balance with idiocy.

To be fair, he gives them plenty chance to put their case before he proves they are idiots.

 

[mcfc1632]

Cheers.

I hope we can all take a moment today to accept what has happened, as none of us can go back now, and then proceed in discussing in good faith how things should be handled moving forward to benefit everyone. We’re only going to get a decent outcome if the reasonable among both sides reconcile and work together.

Well said - I will stop replying to comments that I am coming across from a few days ago to avoid falling into the same trap

I hope that the rest of the catch-up evidences that people have responded well

 

[Ban-jani]

To be fair, he gives them plenty chance to put their case before he proves they are idiots.

Do you not think, like other radio shows, they purposefully put the morons through to get a laugh?

Some of the things I’ve heard said to O’Brien are astonishing.
They must funnel the idiots through and leave other people who actually have a decent point.

Talksport definitely do this and it wouldn’t surprise me if other channels did.

 

[BobKowalski]

This thread will be full of Remainers talking bollox and Leavers countering their claims (or visa versa) till negotiations come to an end.
There will be a trade deal - Germany can't afford to lose it's second biggest non-EU market - and Germany now controls the EU.
As to what this deal will look like we will have to wait and see. Barnier and Johnson will compromise to some degree but Boris's red lines won't be crossed. Oh, and the only red lines we really know about are no regular payments to the EU and no long term involvement of the ECJ.

Germany doesn’t control the EU. France is currently the big dog. The two countries alternate which is sweet of them.

Yes there will probably be a deal. If it has to be done in 11 months it will be basic but there is great incentive on both sides to do a deal. And unlike stage 1 both sides are now on the same page. Gone is our cake and eat it phase - same benefits with none of the obligations, frictionless trade blah, blah. We have given up on that and now all we want is an FTA which the EU is okay with and always has been. See if May had just accepted this in the first place we would be much further along, although in fairness I guess it was worth a punt to actually try and deliver the Leave campaign promises and keep our Union together. Bless.

So we will have friction on trade which then leaves the question of just how much friction and what do we do with all that regulatory stuff (chemicals, medicines etc) which the EU handle for us. Oh and how we implement and administer the new NI custom protocols.

Should be a doodle in 10 months. In other news Universal Credit will not be done until 2024, so that’s what 7 years after it was meant to be running smoothly? Still I’m sure it will all be just fine.

 

[mcfc1632]

And that cuts straight through to the core concept of the EU. Federalism wanes for periods but then its proponents get confident enough to move closer to it. Terms like 'ever closer union' and 'a two speed Europe' start to be bandied about and more powers are lost by member states and are then centralised under collective voting.

Trade is merely a fig leaf for the creation eventually of a European super state.

Absolutely spot on

And if we stayed in the EU it would only be a matter of time before another treaty came forward and was approved by some EU sycophant PM - like Blair and Major - without any involvement of the electorate

Anyway - that risk is now all hopefully behind us