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carlosthejackal said:
No-deal Brexit / WTO tariffs paid by importers of UK exports:


Beef 84%

Cheese 57%

Wheat 53%

Butter 48%

Lamb 48%

Pork 30%

Potatoes 11.5%

Fish 9.6%


Current EU membership tariffs:


Beef 0%

Cheese 0%

Wheat 0%

Butter 0%

Lamb 0%

Pork 0%

Potatoes 0%

Fish 0%


Spot the problem.
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Yeah, it became a political bloc not a trading one.
 
carlosthejackal said:
No-deal Brexit / WTO tariffs paid by importers of UK exports:


Beef 84%

Cheese 57%

Wheat 53%

Butter 48%

Lamb 48%

Pork 30%

Potatoes 11.5%

Fish 9.6%


Current EU membership tariffs:


Beef 0%

Cheese 0%

Wheat 0%

Butter 0%

Lamb 0%

Pork 0%

Potatoes 0%

Fish 0%


Spot the problem.
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Don't know where you got those numbers from, but as a point or order, some of them at least are bollocks. Dairy products, including cheese for example, are not charged as a percentage basis at all, but on a cost per 100 KG, and the equivalent percentage varies as to what sort of dairy product it it. To say Cheese = 57% is just plain wrong, and without looking it up, probably chosen as being the highest possible rate, using the worst possible data points and then adding a bit to make it look even worse than that.

For example, Cheddar, under WTO is €167 per 100 KG. Average selling price for Cheddar is about £7, and circa £5 at wholesale. So circa 28%.
 
Ifwecouldjust....... said:
Have you ever thought of taking a post with the Conservatives PR department ..... they are spouting this crap as well ......


Any friction in trade is a direct result of the action we as a country have taken. respect the Eu for wanting to maintain their 'level playing field' for controlling standards, for wanting to understand country of origin, for wanting to understand the where the ingredients of medicines were manufactured, for wanting to know where animals had been to control stuff like BSE , not want GM foodstuffs to enter the food chain


As Ive said before we will trade with them on their terms ...... not ours ..... if indeed we do at all
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you really done understand international trade .

you seriously think leaving the Eu means companies in the U.K. and the Eu will not and cannot trade at all between each other

WOW .
 
Ban-jani said:
You might want to tell the EU that.
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They know. Unless there is a deal already agreed how can we transition to it. Transition means slowly move towards a new state. Until we know what that state is we cant move towards it. Thats why we are staying still as we were. Once we agree a deal it wont happen over night , thats when we’ll transition.
 
kevin horlocks wand said:
you really done understand international trade .
you seriously think leaving the Eu means companies in the U.K. and the Eu will not and cannot trade at all between each other
WOW .
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He wasn't saying that.
Of course UK and EU companies will trade with one another.
It's just that business could be more difficult and costly to transact (depending on the nature of the trade deal).
But of course you know that.
 
blueparrot said:
They know. Unless there is a deal already agreed how can we transition to it. Transition means slowly move towards a new state. Until we know what that state is we cant move towards it. Thats why we are staying still as we were. Once we agree a deal it wont happen over night , thats when we’ll transition.
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We do know, it’s a FTA, the intricacies need to be arranged but the general view is a FTA.
 
Len Rum said:
He wasn't saying that.
Of course UK and EU companies will trade with one another.
It's just that business could be more difficult and costly to transact (depending on the nature of the trade deal).
But of course you know that.
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look at the end where he says

if indeed we do at all......

I know what he said.
 
kevin horlocks wand said:
I would not mind but all the predictions have not come true and the uk is doing alright.

there is more to worry about in the world than fucking brexit. City not clicking, var , it’s always bloody raining, Coronavirus, homelessness , nhs, a lack of police force , terrorists , trump.

but no the thing that’s really keeps people awake at night and is terrifying people up and down the land is wait for it.....

NON -TARIFF BARRIERS TO TRADE BETWEEN COUNTRIES.

Apologies for posting that if people are offended by those words.
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The prospect of Trade barriers has become some perverse final bastion to retreat to it seems

We know what will happen....

We will see 100s more posts in the same vein until commonsense and business needs prevail and it will all feel - thankfully - anti-climatic
 
blueinsa said:
Be thankful we are now 4 days past planes being grounded and/or falling from the sky as they where to be refused permission to land.
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Thank fuck

When the wind changes from normal I am under the Heathrow flight path

I may have wasted £1000s on a bunker

Still I can use it for storing Spam
 
carlosthejackal said:
No-deal Brexit / WTO tariffs paid by importers of UK exports:


Beef 84%

Cheese 57%

Wheat 53%

Butter 48%

Lamb 48%

Pork 30%

Potatoes 11.5%

Fish 9.6%


Current EU membership tariffs:


Beef 0%

Cheese 0%

Wheat 0%

Butter 0%

Lamb 0%

Pork 0%

Potatoes 0%

Fish 0%


Spot the problem.
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Yes - do you?
 
Vic said:
Yesterday it was "the vast majority".
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Nope - different subject

This will be one of:

1) your memory is shit
2) you are disingenuously twisting the words of others - again
3) your desperation is driving you to seek to score cheap points - no matter how wrong you keep being, or
4) you have joined others by dropping into some stalker/trolling mode

Why this need that some of you have to keep jumping on the posts of some Leavers to try and score cheap points

If not one - or a mixture of the above - just what was the point of your post?

Proper sad stuff IMO
 
Len Rum said:
He wasn't saying that.
Of course UK and EU companies will trade with one another.
It's just that business could be more difficult and costly to transact (depending on the nature of the trade deal).
But of course you know that.
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Just at a lower level because not everyone will want to pay the increased costs.
It’s sad that this obvious point needs to be made to those in denial that trade will suffer.
 
mcfc1632 said:
The prospect of Trade barriers has become some perverse final bastion to retreat to it seems

We know what will happen....

We will see 100s more posts in the same vein until commonsense and business needs prevail and it will all feel - thankfully - anti-climatic
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Says the man who said we didn’t need an Irish border and that it was a just dastardly plot to ensure we stayed in the EU.

And then we put an internal customs border in the Irish Sea.
 
Johnson lies again - or genuinely doesn't know that the WA isn't a Trade Deal - maybe he is the thick one. If the people who swallow this aren't then they have to be ill informed at best or gullible at worst.

EU didn’t cut public services.

The EU didn’t cause wage decline.

The EU didn’t cause an NHS crisis.

The EU didn’t neglect industrial communities.

The EU didn’t cut the schools budget. Don’t blame the EU. Blame the UK government.



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