Another new Brexit thread

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bluethrunthru said:
Thats ok - you never did have anything to offer
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Oh no - that will be another one of those devastating ripostes......

But hey-oh - I will help - afterall it is a time for those more able to provide extra care in the community...…….

So you started getting all faux-offended by the use by a poster of the word: '****' and referring to CoCs

But the post you were offended by was in itself a reply to a Remainer referring to Leavers as cunts - bottom of page 3419

No big deal - you fellas refer to us as cunts all the time - just means that you should not then get 'outraged'
 
Saddleworth2 said:
I haven't found that to be the case to be fair. As a remainer, I have had more insight into valid reasons for Brexit from him than any other leave poster. You have to dig sometimes mind ;-).
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You must have more patience and tolerance than most if you’re willing to trawl through page after page of repetitive sneering and whining to find the occasional useful nugget of information buried in there.
 
Saddleworth2 said:
I haven't found that to be the case to be fair. As a remainer, I have had more insight into valid reasons for Brexit from him than any other leave poster. You have to dig sometimes mind ;-).
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I would suggest that the root cause is that for it to be considered by me to be worth bothering to make the effort - then there has to be some belief that the recipient will reciprocate and has the objectivity and capability to analyse and assess.

If posters frequently demonstrate that the acme of their debating and analytical capabilities is cheap insults and snide comments, then it would be likely somewhat condescending to seek to engage at levels above what they can relate and respond to.

Best to just interact at the level at which they have confidence and are comfortable I have found

Edit: In case it was not clear - you should take that as a positive comment on yourself;-)
 
mcfc1632 said:
Oh no - that will be another one of those devastating ripostes......

But hey-oh - I will help - afterall it is a time for those more able to provide extra care in the community...…….

So you started getting all faux-offended by the use by a poster of the word: '****' and referring to CoCs

But the post you were offended by was in itself a reply to a Remainer referring to Leavers as cunts - bottom of page 3419

No big deal - you fellas refer to us as cunts all the time - just means that you should not then get 'outraged'
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Yawn
 
mcfc1632 said:
Further good news and evidence that our resolve is solid:

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/pol...-eu-uk-third-round-negotiations-a4441806.html

Where the fuck was this David Frost fella being hidden during 2016-2019???

May must slowly be realising what an utter dick she was and how she was readily led by the nose by the Remainer establishment - she must be gutted
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Some crazy stuff in there. He quotes a load of ideological reasons for not being able to accept EU proposals such as:

the EU continues "to insist on fisheries arrangements and access to UK fishing waters in a way that is incompatible with our future status as an independent coastal state."
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i.e. ideologically we want to be a free state with regard to fishing. Then says:

"It is hard to understand why the EU insists on an ideological approach which makes it more difficult to reach a mutually beneficial agreement.
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That is what you are doing you muppet.

Ministers are now planning a “stock-take” before the next round in June to decide if it is worth carrying on.
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As we know this is not going to get anywhere - never was. So that leaves us with no deal as being potential government policy - the best they can come up with. An option that had around 20% public support when the prospect of a 2nd referendum was around (and before we had a virus to deal with).

As I have said before, no deal is untenable. If Johnson does it he will be forced to resign within a year. There is no way the public will stand for the mess it will create. They must know that and therefore something will have to give but the pressure is clearly on the UK more than the EU. The resolve is on both sides and we have far more to lose, as has always been the case.
 
Gaudion M said:
Some crazy stuff in there. He quotes a load of ideological reasons for not being able to accept EU proposals such as:

i.e. ideologically we want to be a free state with regard to fishing. Then says:



That is what you are doing you muppet.



As we know this is not going to get anywhere - never was. So that leaves us with no deal as being potential government policy - the best they can come up with. An option that had around 20% public support when the prospect of a 2nd referendum was around (and before we had a virus to deal with).

As I have said before, no deal is untenable. If Johnson does it he will be forced to resign within a year. There is no way the public will stand for the mess it will create. They must know that and therefore something will have to give but the pressure is clearly on the UK more than the EU. The resolve is on both sides and we have far more to lose, as has always been the case.
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And , of course , all of this is being done without a cost benefit analysis .... for example the annual cost of recruiting and paying customs officials is greater than the annual income we receive from fishing.

Tory ideology gone mad.
 
mcfc1632 said:
Further good news and evidence that our resolve is solid:

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/pol...-eu-uk-third-round-negotiations-a4441806.html

Where the fuck was this David Frost fella being hidden during 2016-2019???

May must slowly be realising what an utter dick she was and how she was readily led by the nose by the Remainer establishment - she must be gutted
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Frankly if you paid me what Frost is being paid I might have gone to Brussels and told Barnier to sod off. Now if only they hadn't won a referendum by making all those promises and lies about deals - not least that we'd still be in a free trade zone from Iceland to the Russian border (which you long ago put down as a convenient lie).
 
Gaudion M said:
Some crazy stuff in there. He quotes a load of ideological reasons for not being able to accept EU proposals such as:

i.e. ideologically we want to be a free state with regard to fishing. Then says:



That is what you are doing you muppet.



As we know this is not going to get anywhere - never was. So that leaves us with no deal as being potential government policy - the best they can come up with. An option that had around 20% public support when the prospect of a 2nd referendum was around (and before we had a virus to deal with).

As I have said before, no deal is untenable. If Johnson does it he will be forced to resign within a year. There is no way the public will stand for the mess it will create. They must know that and therefore something will have to give but the pressure is clearly on the UK more than the EU. The resolve is on both sides and we have far more to lose, as has always been the case.
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The absolute shit show that No Deal will bring us will only be a minor addition to the collapse of the economy thanks to the pandemic making the recovery take much longer. It will, of course, be blamed entirely on the pandemic.
 
Ifwecouldjust....... said:
And , of course , all of this is being done without a cost benefit analysis .... for example the annual cost of recruiting and paying customs officials is greater than the annual income we receive from fishing.

Tory ideology gone mad.
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I read somewhere that if we scrap brexit we could pay every fisherman in the UK a £1m a year salary and we would be far better off.
 
Ifwecouldjust....... said:
And , of course , all of this is being done without a cost benefit analysis .... for example the annual cost of recruiting and paying customs officials is greater than the annual income we receive from fishing.

Tory ideology gone mad.
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What income if we can't export what we catch?

mcfc1632 said:
Best to just interact at the level at which they have confidence and are comfortable I have found
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Except about fishing it seems
 
west didsblue said:
The absolute shit show that No Deal will bring us will only be a minor addition to the collapse of the economy thanks to the pandemic making the recovery take much longer. It will, of course, be blamed entirely on the pandemic.
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They would try but would it stick. No deal would come with some vary real visual signs of what it actually means. As we know Leavers are thick as mince - they will have to see it before they understand it, and once they get it they will realise what they have done.

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Gaudion M said:
They would try but would it stick. No deal would come with some vary real visual signs of what it actually means. As we know Leavers are thick as mince - they will have to see it before they understand it, and once they get it they will realise what they have done.

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I doubt it. Brexit is a religion to many. Reminds me of the Trump supporters who’d rather die than have free health care because it sounds a bit socialist.
 
west didsblue said:
The absolute shit show that No Deal will bring us will only be a minor addition to the collapse of the economy thanks to the pandemic making the recovery take much longer. It will, of course, be blamed entirely on the pandemic.
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The problem will be that as the rest of the world leaves us behind it will be increasingly difficult to sell that particular lie.

Mr. Starmer is going to have a field day pointing out the folly of this Government.
 
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