I thought the whole point of the UK stance is that we want everything we used to have but without paying anything (and without FoM) ... plus fish of course that we can't catch or sell.They most definitely will. Its not just a trade issue which they will benefit from, they want/need our money. Cue the remainer posts saying they dont need either lol.
Must be nearly beer o'clock time.
Probably coincidence - but beer o'clock seems to be coming round earlier recently when I have been on hereThey most definitely will. Its not just a trade issue which they will benefit from, they want/need our money. Cue the remainer posts saying they dont need either lol.
Must be nearly beer o'clock time.
That's a long enough farewell letter for going off to the Hundred Years War rather than lighting a barbecue.Now firstly, someone yesterday sensibly pointed out that the weather is far too nice to waste time on here - especially dealing with people that have nothing of substance to post and can only resort to personal attacks - as we have seen from several Remainers these last days.
Secondly, I emphasise that this post here is aimed exclusively at Leavers and I am just using these posts I am quoting for the purpose of explanation...……..
Fellow Leavers, what I suggest that you take from the last few days is that the Remainers of the 'die in a ditch' mindset have entirely run out of anything reflecting credibility and they have spent recent days and weeks in some sort of 'terrorist' mode - seeking to distract and break-up any factual or sensible dialogues with a mixture of personal attacks and distraction through the posting of outright bollocks.
We need to be careful of getting sucked in - because that is what they want.
That said - I emphasise my offer to @BlueHammer85 that I am absolutely committed to rising to the challenge of the 'quality of debate' that I am hoping he will bring to the thread.
There is an MO that has been obvious for a while - they reply to a Leaver post and totally twist what was said so that they can suggest something else was said and reply in the way they want. This is a tactic of deviousness and deceit - but it has become prevalent. Obviously - it is only a tactic of some and by no means all Remainers - but some of the more frequent posters certainly.
I know most of you will have spotted this technique - it is afterall pretty blatant - but just in case I offer a warning to those that may not have. If you do feel the need to reply - I caution you to be careful in the strength of your response as another tactic is to seek to get you to overreact so that you can be in trouble with mods.
The posts that I am replying to are examples of this toadying deceit. I have to smile that posters is so bereft of points about Brexit to make that they have been scouring my post history just to find an example of when I was riled - whilst pissed on the way pack from Wembley - so they can seek to use it as some form of bait/escalation.
It is doubly laughable - because @west didsblue has called me far worse and far more often - even frequently calling me an outright liar (although that has dropped away as the penny seems to have dropped that I have been truthful throughout - which seems to especially boil his piss)
Anyway - my secateurs await and I am on BBQ brunch duty
Just as I think some of our demands are an unrealistic attempt to have our cake and eat it, those particular EU demands are something that would not ordinarily be reasonable unless it was a punitive post war settlement. To avoid the increasingly likely 'no deal' scenario both sides will have to budge. Attempts by either side to present their current stance as wholly or realistically acceptable to the other at present are a bit pathetic.Let’s just sit back and see if the EU moves on it’s demands regarding fishing and level playing field. Our Remainer friends suggest not, I’m predicting they will.
Couldn’t be arsed reading it. Is it worth me knowing a summary as he tagged me in it? Probably some shit about stalking I would guess.That's a long enough farewell letter for going off to the Hundred Years War rather than lighting a barbecue.
You find my posts boring. I find yours inane, pointless, deliberately provocative and often incoherent so I don’t read them unless it’s a response to one of mine.True though
You find my posts boring. I find yours inane, pointless, deliberately provocative and often incoherent so I don’t read them unless it’s a response to one of mine.
I suggest you ignore mine as well if they bore you so much.
I’d say that was more 1632. Bovril is a bit more Boris Johnson.He is the Tolstoy of BM but not in a good way.
As I said boring, you only come on here to wind people up, don't reply I will not be here to read it, far too nice to sit on a keyboard all day Ta.I’d say that was more 1632. Bovril is a bit more Boris Johnson.
As I said boring, you only come on here to wind people up, don't reply I will not be here to read it, far too nice to sit on a keyboard all day Ta.
You find my posts boring. I find yours inane, pointless, deliberately provocative and often incoherent so I don’t read them unless it’s a response to one of mine.
I suggest you ignore mine as well if they bore you so much.
You're right. Thought you were talking about 1632.I’d say that was more 1632. Bovril is a bit more Boris Johnson.
Yes, it does feel like it has probably run its course.Mods, Ric, whomever makes these decisions surely it is fast approaching the time when this thread needs to be locked and perhaps consigned (promoted?) To the classic threads forum?
Brexit is done. That's not a smug statement, it's a fact. The decision has been taken, for right or wrong depending on your opinion, but done nevertheless and this thread has fast descended into a squabbling, childish mess quite frankly.
Whatever is the outcome of our democratic decision to leave is now the responsibility of the uk government, present and future. That is one of Brexit greatest legacies. In the future decisions taken by uk govts will now have full accountability as there will be no excuse of "the EU made us/stopped us do it"
The war is over. One side won, one side lost. Let's all move on, there is precious little benefit in rehashing old arguments about a decision that has already been taken.
Agree. Now that the UK is rising phoenix like from the ashes.Mods, Ric, whomever makes these decisions surely it is fast approaching the time when this thread needs to be locked and perhaps consigned (promoted?) To the classic threads forum?
Brexit is done. That's not a smug statement, it's a fact. The decision has been taken, for right or wrong depending on your opinion, but done nevertheless and this thread has fast descended into a squabbling, childish mess quite frankly.
Whatever is the outcome of our democratic decision to leave is now the responsibility of the uk government, present and future. That is one of Brexit greatest legacies. In the future decisions taken by uk govts will now have full accountability as there will be no excuse of "the EU made us/stopped us do it"
The war is over. One side won, one side lost. Let's all move on, there is precious little benefit in rehashing old arguments about a decision that has already been taken.
Certainly at least until actual progress/developments have been made in the negotiations/result of a deal, in which a new thread can be started anyway. This one's been done for a while.Mods, Ric, whomever makes these decisions surely it is fast approaching the time when this thread needs to be locked and perhaps consigned (promoted?) To the classic threads forum?
Brexit is done. That's not a smug statement, it's a fact. The decision has been taken, for right or wrong depending on your opinion, but done nevertheless and this thread has fast descended into a squabbling, childish mess quite frankly.
Whatever is the outcome of our democratic decision to leave is now the responsibility of the uk government, present and future. That is one of Brexit greatest legacies. In the future decisions taken by uk govts will now have full accountability as there will be no excuse of "the EU made us/stopped us do it"
The war is over. One side won, one side lost. Let's all move on, there is precious little benefit in rehashing old arguments about a decision that has already been taken.
Agreed.Mods, Ric, whomever makes these decisions surely it is fast approaching the time when this thread needs to be locked and perhaps consigned (promoted?) To the classic threads forum?
Brexit is done. That's not a smug statement, it's a fact. The decision has been taken, for right or wrong depending on your opinion, but done nevertheless and this thread has fast descended into a squabbling, childish mess quite frankly.
Whatever is the outcome of our democratic decision to leave is now the responsibility of the uk government, present and future. That is one of Brexit greatest legacies. In the future decisions taken by uk govts will now have full accountability as there will be no excuse of "the EU made us/stopped us do it"
The war is over. One side won, one side lost. Let's all move on, there is precious little benefit in rehashing old arguments about a decision that has already been taken.
Thanks, I appreciate you acknowledging that you’d edited your post after I’d replied.
There was no incentive, it was just my personal opinion. I didn’t realise that I was no longer allowed to express my views on here.
Mods, Ric, whomever makes these decisions surely it is fast approaching the time when this thread needs to be locked and perhaps consigned (promoted?) To the classic threads forum?
Brexit is done. That's not a smug statement, it's a fact. The decision has been taken, for right or wrong depending on your opinion, but done nevertheless and this thread has fast descended into a squabbling, childish mess quite frankly.
Whatever is the outcome of our democratic decision to leave is now the responsibility of the uk government, present and future. That is one of Brexit greatest legacies. In the future decisions taken by uk govts will now have full accountability as there will be no excuse of "the EU made us/stopped us do it"
The war is over. One side won, one side lost. Let's all move on, there is precious little benefit in rehashing old arguments about a decision that has already been taken.
Possibly serves the purpose of being a place people can be told to fuck off to when they try dragging brexit into other threads/debates? Imho if this thread goes you'll just get the same cunts having the same arguments in other threads and spoiling / derailing them.Yes, it does feel like it has probably run its course.