Another new Brexit thread

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Q&A from @DemitryOpines amused me.


2/ "Why do we need giant truck parking lots?"

Because from the end of the transition period, trucks moving things UK-EU will need to stop and present significantly more paperwork than before. The lots are for trucks without papers, wrong papers, or if there are queues.


3/ "Why do they need more paperwork?"

Because now the UK and EU will be two distinct trading areas, and trading areas need to know precisely what's crossing their borders, in what amounts, owned by who, driven by who, and liable for which tariffs.

That's a lot of new paper.


4/ "So they'll fill out the forms, what's the problem?"

Even if every truck is carrying perfect paperwork, that's thousands more forms that have to be processed, and thousands more confirmations happening at the port every day.

That alone could overwhelm the port's capacity.


5/ "What if the forms aren't done, or aren't right?"

That's even worse. Customs documentation is complicated, and it's not going to be something the driver can just correct with a sharpie.

They'll need to contact head office, which may need to consult the customer or an expert.


6/ "How long can that take?"

Hours, sometimes longer. Many ports don't have room for trucks to sit idling while someone on the other end of the country corrects errors on a Rules of Origin certificate.

Ergo, you need these big parking lots.


7/ "But this was always inevitable, once Brexit was voted in, right?"

Not entirely.

First, the way the Future Relationship Agreement was done, ruling out Customs Union membership, is what made this volume of paperwork needed.

A CU has much less paper at its internal borders.


Second, the reason the HMG is frantically buying up hectares of land to put trucks in, is because it anticipates freight operators not being ready, port processing not being ready, or both.

Not extending transition, despite a pandemic, made this far more likely.


8/ “Can electronic systems fix all this?"

They can help a lot, but they're not a magic bullet.

HMG is obviously not expecting tech to enable a frictionless end to transition. I can tell because they just leased half of Kent.
 
What is it with the absolute devotion to the EU?

Most of you, anyone but the Tories, have for the majority of your adult lives told anyone that will listen how shit things are in the country yet you never think for all of those shit years we have been a member of the EU, an organisation you want us all to believe is the answer to many of our problems and issues.

What part of the EU is no different, a political ruling elite facing the same issues, the same poverty, the same jobless numbers of not higher, the same homelessness, the same drugs issues, the same crime issues etc etc do you not get?

They have no answers to the very issues you all care about so much other than we need more power thanks and oh, more of your money.
No excuse for making things shitter by leaving.
 
Not sure why you allowed yourself to be brainwashed by vote leave - they were about as plausible as the emergency budget we were promised would happen a couple of weeks after that tweet.
Some will never move on from 2016.

They'll be talking about Farage, "the poster", "leave lies!" and leave voters to anyone within earshot from now until the end, becoming a tragically boring character amongst their own personal social circles.
 
Some will never move on from 2016.

They'll be talking about Farage, "the poster", "leave lies!" and leave voters to anyone within earshot from now until the end, becoming a tragically boring character amongst their own personal social circles.

You were (wrongly) citing Napoleon's policy the other day!

We are just making sure the appalling history of Brexit is written by the losers rather than by Brexiter revisionists.
 
It was a shit question,as asking whether something will be "ready" is open to interpretation.

Not "blatant lies" merely different truths.
;)

It was a dumb question. The question is why are spending £705m on making sure it will be more difficult for our firms to import and export goods with increased direct costs and increased red tape and admin when our firms are already struggling because of the pandemic.

They should ask that question because none of this has anything to do with the referendum. It is a conscious choice, an ideological choice that we have decided to make.

And I for one will enjoy watching it burn. Arf.
 
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I enjoy your cartoons - are they all one artist/paper?
 
It was a dumb question. The question is why are spending £705m on making sure it will be more difficult for our firms to import and export goods with increased direct costs and increased red tape and admin when our firms are already struggling because of the pandemic.

They should ask that question because none of this has anything to do with the referendum. It is a conscious choice, an ideological choice that we have decided to make.

And I for one will enjoy watching it burn. Arf.

I haven't been watching but I guess the subject of the leaked Liz Truss letter wasn't broached.
 
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