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This Russia report looks like it could be interesting, possible meddling in the Scottish referendum
but no evidence of the same with the UK referendum.
Amazing, staggering news this, it raises the possibility that people voted to
leave the EU without hearing subliminal messages from Ivan, and even more
gobsmacking, they probably wanted to.
 
bluethrunthru said:
More Brexit positivity - massive trade deal with Rockall to be announced soon? We are about to enter "The Mouse that Roared" equivalence





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Is it that these people genuinely don't understand that lichtenstein is only a small portion of the 66bn trade he was talking about, or for some reason best known to themselves need to pretend it's just lichtenstein? It's a bit odd.
 
Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese said:
Is it that these people genuinely don't understand that lichtenstein is only a small portion of the 66bn trade he was talking about, or for some reason best known to themselves need to pretend it's just lichtenstein? It's a bit odd.
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Ah, the wummer wummed.

Remind me, why are we having to have trade talks with these nations including Liechtenstein?

"We’re committed to build on the progress in talks to strengthen these partnerships".... partnerships that are strong now and are being deliberately weakened.
 
Ancient Citizen said:
This Russia report looks like it could be interesting, possible meddling in the Scottish referendum
but no evidence of the same with the UK referendum.
Amazing, staggering news this, it raises the possibility that people voted to
leave the EU without hearing subliminal messages from Ivan, and even more
gobsmacking, they probably wanted to.
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Don't worry. If it turns out the kremlin didn't engineer brexit, and we did have the 'facts' because Cameron spent 9m on a leaflet for us all, there is all was the stupidity / racism thing to fall back on. This will save the angst of admitting the electorate just made a choice and you don't like it.
 
Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese said:
Lol, have you seen the plan for clawing back the 750bn and where from? Got to love twitter.
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What the fuck has Twitter got to do with it? It’s a link to the EU commission page on the Budget and Recovery plan which has been agreed by the 27 heads of state. It’s a big deal in the scheme of things and you’re twatting on about Twitter?
 
Ancient Citizen said:
This Russia report looks like it could be interesting, possible meddling in the Scottish referendum
but no evidence of the same with the UK referendum.
Amazing, staggering news this, it raises the possibility that people voted to
leave the EU without hearing subliminal messages from Ivan, and even more
gobsmacking, they probably wanted to.
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plenty of subliminal messages from Cameron’s mate Obama on how WE should vote.

we don’t need a report for that though.
 
Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese said:
Is it that these people genuinely don't understand that lichtenstein is only a small portion of the 66bn trade he was talking about, or for some reason best known to themselves need to pretend it's just lichtenstein? It's a bit odd.
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wait for when we are discussing our Australian deal.

Twitter will be saying look at our great post eu deals now trying to get a deal with Yabbie creek.
 
kevin horlocks wand said:
plenty of subliminal messages from Cameron’s mate Obama on how WE should vote.

we don’t need a report for that though.
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Interesting that

Remainers don't question that blatant interference in support of Remain of the POTUS, Head of the IMF and many others ahead of the referendum - but spend years bleating on about what has turned out to be fictitious rumour that Russia had interfered in support of Leave.

I have a good number of the Remainers on ignore - so may be wrong - but I am guessing that they have not been queuing up this morning to express their dismay at how desperate and gullible they have been by clutching to this 'hope'

Surely - at the very least - some have been on to at least man up and admit they were wrong?
 
I think it might be because It’s a false comparative - none of that was subliminal, it was explicit. There’s a difference between a head of state or the IMF giving their opinion to a country looking to destabilise other countries elections through flooding media with false facts.

Personally I find thinking they are a comparative far more worrying tbh as it sets it as equally justifiable. It isn’t. Forget the referendum or the 2019 election outcome, it’s not that that’s really on trial outside of for people that are too invested in those outcomes (from either side) that they’ve gone way past the ends don’t justify the means.
 
blueinsa said:
Macron had to get angry and slam his fist into a desk at one point but at least they were reminded as to who was boss and France and Germany got their way in the end.
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Don't tell me that the Remainers are trying to present the budget as some kind of positive???

So now some EU members can get on with jumping through the hoops and committing to increased controls over their ability to act as independent states - all to get back some of the money they are now obligated to contribute.

The other nations - the net beneficiaries - can continue to take from the trough - but only if they also commit to increased controls over their sovereignty.

Meanwhile - we UK citizens can look forward to the UK not having to pay an obscene amount into this MFF and can take a lot of comfort that the UK government (this current one and any future ones) can act to steer the UK to recovery without being constrained by EU controls and without having to commit to increased EU controls

And the EU member states are somehow in a better position than the UK??

That would take some desperate and creativity spinning
 
mcfc1632 said:
Don't tell me that the Remainers are trying to present the budget as some kind of positive???

So now some EU members can get on with jumping through the hoops and committing to increased controls over their ability to act as independent states - all to get back some of the money they are now obligated to contribute.

The other nations - the net beneficiaries - can continue to take from the trough - but only if they also commit to increased controls over their sovereignty.

Meanwhile - we UK citizens can look forward to the UK not having to pay an obscene amount into this MFF and can take a lot of comfort that the UK government (this current one and any future ones) can act to steer the UK to recovery without being constrained by EU controls and without having to commit to increased EU controls

And the EU member states are somehow in a better position than the UK??

That would take some desperate and creativity spinning
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Tories have more than doubled the national debt since 2010
 
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