Another reason to fine us.....

I've had a think about this and am going to go against the grain a bit.

It could actually be a good idea to be fair, if the club got fined for showing empty seats then the higher-ups may well decide that 54,000 at £20 a ticket is better than 40,000 at £40 a ticket and thus reduce prices?
 
SWP's back said:
I've had a think about this and am going to go against the grain a bit.

It could actually be a good idea to be fair, if the club got fined for showing empty seats then the higher-ups may well decide that 54,000 at £20 a ticket is better than 40,000 at £40 a ticket and thus reduce prices?
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Clarkie alert.
 
There is no excuse in not going at the prices we offered on wednesday also kids for a fiver in a champs league game come on no excuse.
 
grimmcfc said:
Clarkie alert.
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2bluejacko said:
I had to look twice... Maths not his strong point obviously
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Nothing wrong with my maths.

Have another read, let me know when you work it out.

(Obviously you'd need to factor in a fine, but that went without saying given the thread title and preceding sentence "if the club got fine for showing empty seats..")

And jacko, I'd have expected better than that from you to doubt my maths, you've seen where I live due to it.
 
SWP's back said:
Nothing wrong with my maths.

Have another read, let me know when you work it out.

(Obviously you'd need to factor in a fine, but that went without saying given the thread title and preceding sentence "if the club got fine for showing empty seats..")

And jacko, I'd have expected better than that from you to doubt my maths, you've seen where I live due to it.
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I agree with you*. This can only be a good thing for ticket prices.

*that's a first
 
SWP's back said:
Nothing wrong with my maths.

Have another read, let me know when you work it out.

(Obviously you'd need to factor in a fine, but that went without saying given the thread title and preceding sentence "if the club got fine for showing empty seats..")

And jacko, I'd have expected better than that from you to doubt my maths, you've seen where I live due to it.
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Nothing wrong with the maths at all, @Prestwich_Blue has been pointing this out for a long time, hence my flippant response. You do have a point though, in that it may force the higher-ups to actually consider this.
 
grimmcfc said:
Nothing wrong with the maths at all, @Prestwich_Blue has been pointing this out for a long time, hence my flippant response. You do have a point though, in that it may force the higher-ups to actually consider this.
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Ah right. It just hadn't really gained any support in the thread.

I did read Martin Samuel bemoaning it a few weeks back as well and was surprised he hadn't supported it as it may mean clubs are forced to make tickets available at a reduced rate.
 
SWP's back said:
Ah right. It just hadn't really gained any support in the thread.

I did read Martin Samuel bemoaning it a few weeks back as well and was surprised he hadn't supported it as it may mean clubs are forced to make tickets available at a reduced rate.
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I think the challenge at City is the fine line between "buy it, it's only £xxx and decide on the day if we go or not" and "I'm not missing that, I've paid £xx for it".

West Ham will have the former problem later this season with their £295 season ticket holders if things aren't going well on the pitch.
 
grimmcfc said:
Nothing wrong with the maths at all, @Prestwich_Blue has been pointing this out for a long time, hence my flippant response. You do have a point though, in that it may force the higher-ups to actually consider this.
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While SWP's Back's example was a bit extreme I have indeed said on a number of occasions that I believe the suits would rather see us sell fewer tickets at a higher price than fill the ground at a lower price. So I'd say they'd rather see us sell 40,000 @ £50 than 54,000 @ £35
 
Decisions around football getting ridiculous these days.

Still annoying me they changed the rule of kick off where you can have 1 player now - just make the game look more like land hockey or something. Might seem trivial but that's a traditional aesthetic of the game they did away with.

Seems to be a trend at the moment that everyone's got to find something to change to justify their wage packet.
 
No offence but when we can't fill the ground like on Wednesday the third tier should be closed. No point in spreading the fans out as it only worsens the atmosphere.
 
@BluePhil8 said:
No offence but when we can't fill the ground like on Wednesday the third tier should be closed. No point in spreading the fans out as it only worsens the atmosphere.
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Unless you sit in the third tier with your family, friends and fans you've sat around and chatted with for several years in which case it's a bit crap.
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
While SWP's Back's example was a bit extreme I have indeed said on a number of occasions that I believe the suits would rather see us sell fewer tickets at a higher price than fill the ground at a lower price. So I'd say they'd rather see us sell 40,000 @ £50 than 54,000 @ £35
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No doubt that is the case, otherwise prices would be lower. I don't get the logic. Lower ticket prices to attract 54,000 would probably makes less money, but throw in lower food and drink prices and people would probably make up the shortfall. I bet there are plenty who would have several pints at reasonable prices who won't even have one just on principle. Yes, it probably doesn't improve the bottom line in the short term, though it is possible they might increase profits a bit. I'm sure, though, that creating 54,000 people who regularly spend significantly attracts more people to do the same. More fans buying the cheaper tickets, more attendees buying the cheaper food and drinks. As far as I can see the Amazon rule applies in that, for a given profit level, the more customers the better. Sometimes increasing customers is more beneficial in the long run than increasing profits is.
 
Irwell said:
No doubt that is the case, otherwise prices would be lower. I don't get the logic. Lower ticket prices to attract 54,000 would probably makes less money, but throw in lower food and drink prices and people would probably make up the shortfall. I bet there are plenty who would have several pints at reasonable prices who won't even have one just on principle. Yes, it probably doesn't improve the bottom line in the short term, though it is possible they might increase profits a bit. I'm sure, though, that creating 54,000 people who regularly spend significantly attracts more people to do the same. More fans buying the cheaper tickets, more attendees buying the cheaper food and drinks. As far as I can see the Amazon rule applies in that, for a given profit level, the more customers the better. Sometimes increasing customers is more beneficial in the long run than increasing profits is.
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Add to that - Habit.
Going to live games becomes a habit. You go to a few affordable ones and want to go to more.
 
grimmcfc said:
Add to that - Habit.
Going to live games becomes a habit. You go to a few affordable ones and want to go to more.
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Yes, absolutely no doubt. Get everyone into the habit of attending games and they will get the bug. The whole thing is a cycle. Premier League clubs have the wrong idea as far as I can see. So many of them could probably sustain much larger stadia if they got pricing right. You can then add concert revenue and the like on top if you've added 20,000 seats.
 
CitizenTID said:
Decisions around football getting ridiculous these days.

Still annoying me they changed the rule of kick off where you can have 1 player now - just make the game look more like land hockey or something. Might seem trivial but that's a traditional aesthetic of the game they did away with.

Seems to be a trend at the moment that everyone's got to find something to change to justify their wage packet.
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Totally agree....it's not trivial, we've had that kick-off since the football league began,why change it...some t*at in a suit I guess
 
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