Anyone for Roberto Mancini

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Well considering now it looks like Hughes could be out the door and Hiddink wont be coming, what does everyone think of the Idea of getting Mancini in ?.

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He's 45 (A young manager everyone wants),
He's won four Coppa Italia (Equivilent to 4 FA cups at 3 different teams),
He's won 3 League titles aswell,
He's champions league experience,
He is supposedly improving his English as he wants to come to England.

Now i don't know about you but I'd be happy to get someone like that to come to city and give them time as he has a pedigree of being a winner. I know the Italian league isn't what it used to be but its still a dam good league.
 
Challenger1978 said:
Well considering now it looks like Hughes could be out the door and Hiddink wont be coming, what does everyone think of the Idea of getting Mancini in ?.

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He's 45 (A young manager everyone wants),
He's won four Coppa Italia (Equivilent to 4 FA cups at 3 different teams),
He's won 3 League titles aswell,
He's champions league experience,
He is supposedly improving his English as he wants to come to England.

Now i don't know about you but I'd be happy to get someone like that to come to city and give them time as he has a pedigree of being a winner. I know the Italian league isn't what it used to be but its still a dam good league.

Whilst I am unsure of the calibre of Serie A during his successes there I think he would fit the bill, well respected across europe as player and manager now, wants to succeed in England so will be driven by that, played the game in the right way with the ball on the ground. My only concern would be he is untried here, something which the owners may feel is too big a risk as the next manager simpply HAS to be a success.
 
what a player he was. A genuinely gifted man.

He is a class act too. Unfortunately I don't know how he'd work as a gaffer in England.

It would be a gamble, and at this stage in our development we can't afford another gamble.
 
dont know anything about him at all.

there are a long list of managers from abroad who have supposed big reputations, and completely fail.

scolari and ramos off the top of my head but there are many more.

no disrespect to the opening post, but do you, or anyone else on here have any idea on his style of management.

its seems to be a common trend that a supposed big name foreign manager will be the answer to our prayers, when in reallity a roy hodgson would be far better equipped.

i have defended mark hughes, and given him some slack with what seem confusing decisions, but leaving white hart lane i was dumbfounded by our lack of shape.

tottenham's tactics were simple and effective, basically utilising lennon at every opportunity while allowing crouch to win every header, and it worked.

but why when we had petrov and i believe weiss on the bench (unless corrected) did we not attempt to get at the slow corluka, and the dreadful ekkoto.

at one point we had 3 players through the middle and nothing wide, an inability to play into space, just feet, and once tottenham pressed we lost the ball.

i prey for width tomorrow, without it we will struggle.
 
Mancini and Khaldoon are good mates IIRC.

Whether we like it or not, this guy is probably our next manager.

I don't understand all of the Hughes Out posters who want to get rid of him now. We can bring in Mancini, Hiddink or whoever now or wait until summer until Mourinho is available. The guy deserves a season at least, otherwise what was the point of backing him for £200m and then sacking him before you get the returns on that?

If the returns don't come this season, and he finishes outside where he needs to, then get rid. Doing so now makes us look like fools, and worst of all, makes us look like we have a bunch of entirely impatient owners who talk a big game about patience and understanding football but are actually just idiots with a bit of cash who knee jerk react to a run of bad results.

I'm not saying that Hughes is the man for the job, but I do believe that the manager we really want isn't going to be available until the summer, so it is a silly idea to remove our current manager before then. He might even come good, you never know. What we do know, is that Hughes won't get us relegated and we there or thereabouts a European spot. If we don't hit the CL this year, then fine, it's still an improvement on last year. Dispose of Hughes and bring in Mourinho.

This period of time is a test of the Sheik and Khaldoon, and we are about to find out if our owners are as reactionary and impatient as some fans are, or have a bit of nouse and plan for the future. There is no benefit to us to getting rid of Hughes now, and only positives for keeping him until the summer.

If I had a choice of CL under Mancini now, and UEFA Cup under Hughes then Mourinho in the summer, I know what I would choose. You can't sack a manager if he gets us to the CL after coming in in January, so we would be cutting off our nose to spite our face.
 
Esteban de la Sexface said:
what a player he was. A genuinely gifted man.

He is a class act too. Unfortunately I don't know how he'd work as a gaffer in England.

It would be a gamble, and at this stage in our development we can't afford another gamble.

Agreed, he really was a fantastic footballer.

I enjoyed watching his Inter side and if Hughes is to go I'd be pleased to see Roberto come in.
 
i heard something on the grapevine but didn't wanna post and get slated as bogus itk...anyway saw this thread so here goes...

heard this morn from v reliable source re private jet (same person who told me about robinho and cook flying out to meet kaka) that the jet picked mancini up yesterday - however i believe his kid plays over here? so not sure it its that, but jet never been used for mancini before - that's it, slate away....
 
City Raider said:
i heard something on the grapevine but didn't wanna post and get slated as bogus itk...anyway saw this thread so here goes...

heard this morn from v reliable source re private jet (same person who told me about robinho and cook flying out to meet kaka) that the jet picked mancini up yesterday - however i believe his kid plays over here? so not sure it its that, but jet never been used for mancini before - that's it, slate away....


Mancini's kid was over here for a while during Sven's era but I though the kid went back to Milan (I think) after Sven was booted out by Dr T
 
Damocles said:
Mancini and Khaldoon are good mates IIRC.

Whether we like it or not, this guy is probably our next manager.

I don't understand all of the Hughes Out posters who want to get rid of him now. We can bring in Mancini, Hiddink or whoever now or wait until summer until Mourinho is available. The guy deserves a season at least, otherwise what was the point of backing him for £200m and then sacking him before you get the returns on that?

If the returns don't come this season, and he finishes outside where he needs to, then get rid. Doing so now makes us look like fools, and worst of all, makes us look like we have a bunch of entirely impatient owners who talk a big game about patience and understanding football but are actually just idiots with a bit of cash who knee jerk react to a run of bad results.

I'm not saying that Hughes is the man for the job, but I do believe that the manager we really want isn't going to be available until the summer, so it is a silly idea to remove our current manager before then. He might even come good, you never know. What we do know, is that Hughes won't get us relegated and we there or thereabouts a European spot. If we don't hit the CL this year, then fine, it's still an improvement on last year. Dispose of Hughes and bring in Mourinho.

This period of time is a test of the Sheik and Khaldoon, and we are about to find out if our owners are as reactionary and impatient as some fans are, or have a bit of nouse and plan for the future. There is no benefit to us to getting rid of Hughes now, and only positives for keeping him until the summer.

If I had a choice of CL under Mancini now, and UEFA Cup under Hughes then Mourinho in the summer, I know what I would choose. You can't sack a manager if he gets us to the CL after coming in in January, so we would be cutting off our nose to spite our face.

That post is flawed on so many levels. Firstly, whether Hughes is sacked tomorrow, or in the summer, nobody can say he wasn't given a fair crack of the whip by our owners. In fact, it beggars belief that anyone would suggest Hughes hasn't been given a chance. He has been given resources which are unprecedented, on top of that, he chose to use those resources signing experienced premiership players so there was no period of adaptation required. Just hit the ground running. In theory anyway...

As for the Mancini v Mourinho argument. Again, flawed, flawed, flawed. I actually laughed out loud at the "UEFA cup under Hughes, with Mourinho to follow, or Chumps League with Mancini..." IMO, it's borderline delusional to think that next summer Mourinho will take over City if we are not playing CL football. For exactly the same reasons, that we won't sign Messi or Torres...so it's either Mourinho in Jan, or not at all. And with the way the CL draw has just happened, I'd hazard a guess as to not at all...

You seem to be arguing that Hughes may not be good enough, but we should give him the rest of the season because...well, just because it would mean our owners are stand up guys. No thanks. I'd rather our owners were ruthless and wanted what is best for the club.
 
Come 'ere!

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We want Mourinhio. Well, some of us do.
 
simon23 said:
NO

Mark Hughes is our manager.....get behind him and the team or FUCK OFF!

I suppose you'd say that if we had the Tooth Fairy for a manager. Just to be loyal for loyalty's sake won't get us anywhere.
 
BillyShears said:
That post is flawed on so many levels. Firstly, whether Hughes is sacked tomorrow, or in the summer, nobody can say he wasn't given a fair crack of the whip by our owners. In fact, it beggars belief that anyone would suggest Hughes hasn't been given a chance. He has been given resources which are unprecedented, on top of that, he chose to use those resources signing experienced premiership players so there was no period of adaptation required. Just hit the ground running. In theory anyway...

I think giving a person £150m in the summer and then sacking them before January is a little impatient.

As for the Mancini v Mourinho argument. Again, flawed, flawed, flawed. I actually laughed out loud at the "UEFA cup under Hughes, with Mourinho to follow, or Chumps League with Mancini..." IMO, it's borderline delusional to think that next summer Mourinho will take over City if we are not playing CL football. For exactly the same reasons, that we won't sign Messi or Torres...so it's either Mourinho in Jan, or not at all. And with the way the CL draw has just happened, I'd hazard a guess as to not at all...

We seem to have different information then. Everything that I have been fed states that Mourinho will only come in the summer, and it isn't dependent on us being in the CL, quite the opposite in fact.

You seem to be arguing that Hughes may not be good enough, but we should give him the rest of the season because...well, just because it would mean our owners are stand up guys. No thanks. I'd rather our owners were ruthless and wanted what is best for the club.

No, my argument is that it is wrong to back a person to the level that we did in the summer and then sack him before they have played 20 games together. That shows a severe lack of patience, or a severe lack of planning.
 
Bojinov The Bull said:
Definately not, his teams style of play is very defensive and by all accounts he can't motivate his players either!

Do you watch a lot of Italian football? (genuine question, not a dig, i don't) Because i was always under the impression that Inter were always one of the most attacking teams in Serie A under Mancini.
 
pee dubya said:
Bojinov The Bull said:
Definately not, his teams style of play is very defensive and by all accounts he can't motivate his players either!

Do you watch a lot of Italian football? (genuine question, not a dig, i don't) Because i was always under the impression that Inter were always one of the most attacking teams in Serie A under Mancini.


he was sacked for being too adventurous!! the Italians don't like to be cavalier unless it's with their dress sense
 
Although I'm a confirmed Mourinho fan, based on his results, I thought this article was interesting given we seem to be linked with all three of them..

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Admittedly it might just be something personal between Hiddink and Jose. But then Gus was at Chelsea so might know a bit more about Mou than I do.

Also I get the impression the Inter fans preferred Mancini's team. to the current one.
 
I don't like Mancini. Not got the pulling power for players that Mourinho / Wenger etc has.
 

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