Apology to the club

[Pingu the Penguin]

I don't mean clear my name, I accept the ban although excessive.

It's the stories being published saying I'm the one who's attacked the player. Also the lies in court from the prosecution saying I taunted the players and fans.

Meldrew has clearly been made an example of here by some jumped up magistrate and I would guess the legal advisor in the court.

The fine and banning order is way OTT.

I know of someone convicted of common assault twice at a match who only received an £80 fine,it was the game at Arsenal just after Balotelli was sent off. I know a few years have passed but £800 and a 4 year banning order, come on

Fines are based on means so that’s not excessive. They are calculated on a formula based on weekly earnings which is why if a footballer and a person on benefits got convicted of the same Speeding offence they would be fined vastly different amounts

I think the banning order length was potentially harsh and it would be interesting (and relevant to any appeal) to know if the bench actually pronounced on the risk of future disorder point. If they didn’t then that would have been an error in law.

properly represented the OP could have got a materially different outcome. He may, for instance, have pleaded guilty “on a basis” - eg I ran on the pitch but didn’t taunt or attack anyone. The outcome might have been slightly different if so

 

[Silva2021]

tbh I think you jumped through hoops there to say it is fair.

The guy does far less than other idiots in football and gets punished more... That is unfair. Surely.

Maybe you mean its within the remit of the law to fine/ban that much. But its not fair. Fair would be deserving, he doesnt deserve that much.

It’s probably the professional/ compliance career I have.

That an action resulting within a punishment within the written remit cannot be considered unfair.

It could well be seen as dealt with harshly or with or not.

I would agree that he does not deserve that much, but when it was done it was within the remit of the action to have that punishment and other actions by other people are independent.

I think it is just different definition of word etc. As in general and just looking at it using common sense, other peoples actions/ consequence he has got the shitty end of the stick.

I don’t think it does him any good considering it to be unfair.

I’m not comparing the 2 at all, I want to make that abundantly clear.

But if a LFC fan got a 5 year ban and £2,000 fine for trying to use a fake ticket are they unfairly treated knowing thousands of others received nothing.

 

[Stephen230]

What happens if he goes into a match and gets found out? After all people are telling him to do that but no one is pointing out what could happen if he does.
With all the back and forth on here, if the club are monitoring the thread they will be looking out for him.
Personally I would draw a line now and keep my head down. JMHO

I think some people are comparing their experiences of getting a three game ban for smoking and the such like.

If he’s caught inside a football ground he’ll certainly be arrested and charged and I would have thought a fair chance of being jailed.

I would also be amazed if the club don’t have some system in place to try and identify those on the banned list.

Doesn’t mean it’s impossible to get away with it but in my opinion it would be stupid in the extreme to risk it.

 

[Eccles Blue]

You could offer to swap seats ;-)

As if……… That’s mine!!! :-) ;-)

 

[dickie davies]

I think some people are comparing their experiences of getting a three game ban for smoking and the such like.

If he’s caught inside a football ground he’ll certainly be arrested and charged and I would have thought a fair chance of being jailed.

I would also be amazed if the club don’t have some system in place to try and identify those on the banned list.

Doesn’t mean it’s impossible to get away with it but in my opinion it would be stupid in the extreme to risk it.

He could always disguise himself as a plastic blue seat

 

[fitzy blue]

Maybe he could try and get himself a press pass and join some of the "Journalists" who do nothing but slag the club off.
He'd get a nice padded seat with free food and drink and probably free parking.

 

[Whether or not]

I think some people are comparing their experiences of getting a three game ban for smoking and the such like.

If he’s caught inside a football ground he’ll certainly be arrested and charged and I would have thought a fair chance of being jailed.

I would also be amazed if the club don’t have some system in place to try and identify those on the banned list.

Doesn’t mean it’s impossible to get away with it but in my opinion it would be stupid in the extreme to risk it.

Unless it has changed, there used to be a requirement to report to your local police station when the match is on, not for long, just to make sure you were not there.

 

[mayo31]

Fines are based on means so that’s not excessive. They are calculated on a formula based on weekly earnings which is why if a footballer and a person on benefits got convicted of the same Speeding offence they would be fined vastly different amounts

I think the banning order length was potentially harsh and it would be interesting (and relevant to any appeal) to know if the bench actually pronounced on the risk of future disorder point. If they didn’t then that would have been an error in law.

properly represented the OP could have got a materially different outcome. He may, for instance, have pleaded guilty “on a basis” - eg I ran on the pitch but didn’t taunt or attack anyone. The outcome might have been slightly different if so

Since when?

The guy fined at Arsenal £80 was on very good money

 

[Pedestrian]

You're right, there was a spate of arse stabbing by the Italians and Turks on "English" Norwegian and Irish fans :)

Wasn’t there something in ‘midnight express’ the movie where stabbing folk below the waist was allowed in Turkish prisons?
Edit https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=TURKISH%20REVENGE&amp=true

 

[grant1977]

It’s down to discretion in the end, but he is correct. It’s done via a calculator based upon income and category of fine and that’s usually how it’s applied

 

[gingerprince]

Since when?

The guy fined at Arsenal £80 was on very good money

Was that a police fixed penalty fine, eg not given by magistrates court?

In addition, I believe some people on "good money" under court means
tested process could be divorced twice each with kids so their monthly
outgoings could be considerable so their "fine" may look small compared
to another on significantly lower monthly income but significantly smaller
monthly outgoings?

 

[Corky]

Since when?

The guy fined at Arsenal £80 was on very good money

Sounds like costs rather than a fine. You need the whole picture. Common assault is very minor too.

Like the example of fan attacking Sharpe only getting a £500 fine but 24 weeks in jail, clearly far worse than an £800 fine and costs a awful lot more.

 

[1961_vintage]

You've made 2 daft mistakes so far. Don't make another one.

 

[Stephen230]

Unless it has changed, there used to be a requirement to report to your local police station when the match is on, not for long, just to make sure you were not there.

I’m pretty sure that isn’t standard. Each person may have different conditions. Surrendering your passport is a pretty common one if your offences were at England games. But having to report every game isn’t something they’d commonly put in the conditions, as far as I’m aware.

 

[Pingu the Penguin]

Since when?

The guy fined at Arsenal £80 was on very good money

Since forever. Depends what the court was told about their income though

3. Definition of relevant weekly income – Sentencing

 

[ChicagoBlue]

You'd have shot him with your AR-15!

Funny stuff!

Don’t have one, but I could have winged him with a 9mm and he would back at the Etihad by the start of next season AND it would cost a lot less money!!

 

[oakiecokie]

Since when?

The guy fined at Arsenal £80 was on very good money

Been like that for a few years now mayo.

 

[Berts Neck]

It is harsh, but I think it is within the remit of what a pubishment could be for that offence.

The guy clearly seems a nice bloke, out of character and regrets his actions. He is unlikely to reoffend.

He may have been made an example off, but have not been dealt with unfairly.

My advice is to take the hit, most games are able to be viewed on SKY anyway. I’m not sure if anything can be done after the period when you can ask for it to be reconsidered. If so, that would certainly be worth considering.

I would not advise sneaking in, if so all the above of being out of character, spare of the moment etc. becomes BS as you show that you don’t respect the rules and pre-mediated decide to break them.

At which point any further punishment would be deserved.

It’s harsh and you have had bad timing and people have certainly done worse and received a lot less. However it is not unfair and you just have to accept it.

My 2p and certainly don’t mean any offence on it. Hopefully you find something to replace the void, it’s fun going to the games but shouldn’t be a substitute for other areas of your life.

I totally agree..I suspect Meldrew is annoyed by the clearly false accusations in the press..the only recourse is the Press Complaints Commission or suing for libel which I would not recommend unless you are happy to lose your house.

 

[Uncle Wally One Ball]

I totally agree..I suspect Meldrew is annoyed by the clearly false accusations in the press..the only recourse is the Press Complaints Commission or suing for libel which I would not recommend unless you are happy to lose your house.

The press just typed out what was said by the bench in court though?

 

[Silvercloud]

What's happened with this, any further updates? Seen loads after the match holding flares/smokebombs on the pitch, surely they're not gonna go after everyone.

Saw the kids brother this morning. He's been asked to attend at Central Park Police Station next Tuesday. He says there's loads going next week. The club look like they're drawing a line in the sand regarding pitch invasions.