Make a statement about what? He wasn't a witness. He'd been told of the accusations and that police had been notified.
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Archbishop of Canterbury steps down
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Wrong. Parents of victims at Winchester College were involved. None went to the police, some (it seems) because they didn't want the publicity (which causes fresh trauma for the victim).Somebody fucks about with one of mine and I wouldn't tell the police, looks like they go for unattached victims who have nobody to turn to though.
gordondaviesmoustache
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I think C of E people are (overall) the most likeable Christians. I’d say Catholics run them a close second.
With many, many evangelical US churches at the other end.
With many, many evangelical US churches at the other end.
johnny crossan
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I have met many inveterate atheists who I like very much, in fact I was a very self-satisfied one myself for many years as a younger man. 'Crouching below extinction's alp' in one's eighth decade does give pause to reflect on excluding the possibility of ultimate meaning and purpose in our existence offered by belief in God.I think C of E people are (overall) the most likeable Christians. I’d say Catholics run them a close second.
With many, many evangelical US churches at the other end.
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Brightwell’s left peg
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I’d agree. Basically the further removed from the teachings of the bible, the nicer they are. They should just go one step further and be awesome.I think C of E people are (overall) the most likeable Christians. I’d say Catholics run them a close second.
With many, many evangelical US churches at the other end.
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I went to a Catholic school in the 90s, and it was genuinely the case that people would think you were a bit weird if you said you believed in God. I remember a not insignificant number of people using the mock GCSE RE exam as an excuse to take the piss.Thing with it is people ask why are attendances at the CoE down? Well its basically a middle class and up club in most towns where people are keen to be seen but outside the gate very few practise or behave in a Christian way.
I am old enough to have been at school in the 60's and 70's when every day started with an assembly and we had weekly RE classes. I could see kids zoning out as it drones on - its pretty hard to blame the rise of computer games and multi channel TV as distracting people away from it in the 1960's.
As it happens I went to Sunday School and did infrequently attend church - I knew it wasn't for me but even now I am surprised how it seeped into me and how much of the scriptures I can remember (Mrs sometime looks at me like I am a secret God botherer when I mention certain things)
The bottom line for me is that the CoE talks down to its attendee's - who goes to church just to be berated any more? On telly its fronted by people like Aled Jones in a nice patterned jumper - nice enough bloke but are there any 16 year olds with a burning desire to dress like that or like JRM and attend Church? Like anything once it falls out of favour its old news and out of date. Flares will make a comeback before mass participation in the CoE does.
Then having baked its inedible cake this ............ ask yourself every time an institution gets involved in this sort of shit how many people think " yeah I wanna be associated with that " ................. well except for a few wrong 'uns
When the stuff came out about the Catholic church, it was genuinely amazing to me that there was never even a discussion of banning them from running things like schools. I honestly think if it was a charitable organisation rather than a church, all of the schools would have been taken into local authority control.
bluethrunthru
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I went to a Catholic school in the 90s, and it was genuinely the case that people would think you were a bit weird if you said you believed in God. I remember a not insignificant number of people using the mock GCSE RE exam as an excuse to take the piss.
When the stuff came out about the Catholic church, it was genuinely amazing to me that there was never even a discussion of banning them from running things like schools. I honestly think if it was a charitable organisation rather than a church, all of the schools would have been taken into local authority control.
Thing is even under local authority control there are no guarantees. Proper safeguarding - really secure checking - is what is needed - it needs to be applied day after day after day. Anywhere that there are loads of kids will attract wrong 'uns - always has always will so constant vigilance is the only thing that will really work.
Why did Welby not follow through this very serious matter when he had the chance (2013) and monitored police action? He had attended previous summer camps with Smyth in his youth. Why did he concentrate on such matters as Wonga, refugee situation, reparations for past slavery etc) well outside his remit?
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'Crouching below extinction's alp' in one's eightieth decade...
Really? So how did you feel about Magna Carta?
Seriously though, I get what you are saying, especially as I am now in my 7th decade.
Someone who writes very engagingly about old age is the former Bishop of Edinburgh Richard Holloway.
He would have made an excellent Archbishop of Canterbury. While still in post he wrote a book called Godless Morality: Keeping Religion Out Of Ethics. That went down well.
Although not gay himself, he performed his first same-sex blessing over fifty years ago and eventually left the Anglican Church out of frustration with its position on same-sex marriage, and before that female ordination. These days he's agnostic.
He's now in his 10th decade but has just published another book.
But the one I would recommend is Waiting For The Last Bus: Reflections on Life and Death.
stonerblue
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GroomingSomebody fucks about with one of mine and I wouldn't tell the police, looks like they go for unattached victims who have nobody to turn to though.