deano ou812
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Won’t happen won’t be allowed they may have the 12 to vote something like this in,but trust me it won’t happen..
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Are 12 American owners a serious threat to our game ?
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It will be argued about bringing a bit of flavour to the atmosphere of the league.Would any league accept the behaviour of the OF fans?
Regardless of what people think of them, Celtic and Rangers in the Premier League would be capable of attracting 70k+ attendances, each with a mega stadium.
As much as it’s insured to say, playing in the Scottish football system is holding them back, and their potential is much greater than most Premier League clubs.
mexico1970
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It will be argued about bringing a bit of flavour to the atmosphere of the league.
Regardless of what people think of them, Celtic and Rangers in the Premier League would be capable of attracting 70k+ attendances, each with a mega stadium.
As much as it’s insured to say, playing in the Scottish football system is holding them back, and their potential is much greater than most Premier League clubs.
Their popularity will always just be local, and most of that is driven by sectarianism.
It's got to be a pisser being Scottish and being forced to play in the Scottish football league though :)
Sectarian chants and pro terrorist songs, even sky turning the volume down won’t hide it. And if they didn’t win every week their crowds would disappear overnight.It will be argued about bringing a bit of flavour to the atmosphere of the league.
Regardless of what people think of them, Celtic and Rangers in the Premier League would be capable of attracting 70k+ attendances, each with a mega stadium.
As much as it’s insured to say, playing in the Scottish football system is holding them back, and their potential is much greater than most Premier League clubs.
Between them they probably have half Scotlands football fans as fans, they also have large sections of Ireland as well.Their popularity will always just be local, and most of that is driven by sectarianism.
It's got to be a pisser being Scottish and being forced to play in the Scottish football league though :)
mexico1970
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Between them they probably have half Scotlands football fans as fans, they also have large sections of Ireland as well.
That doesn't mean they are big sides, Liverpool and the rags probably have more fans in Ireland than either of those two. You hear it all the time about them having a huge social presence it just isn't true.
For instance Celtic have got a handful more twitter followers than bournemouth and west ham have nearly 3 times as many as celtic, they'd offer nothing to the premier league and in the long run it might even damage their brand if they were getting stuffed week on week.
A large part of Ireland supports the Rags or Wall Pushers.Between them they probably have half Scotlands football fans as fans, they also have large sections of Ireland as well.
ChicagoBlue
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The easy answer to EVERY QUESTION of this type is “Follow the money, and how & where it is made.”
When you find out how best to maximize profits, and where those profits get funneled, you’ll know why the PL is so attractive to American ownership.
These billionaires are uber-capitalists looking for a company (football team in a virtual monopoly situation) where they can print money, both in a subscription basis (TV revenues, season cards, sponsorships) and a simple “company valuation” basis.
One is the financial backdrop for the investment (increasing valuation of teams), while the other is the gift that keeps on giving, to either invest is the growing valuation, or in serving as seed money for other ventures, or (as the Glazers have done) as the capital needed to cover their other debts in other (sports) franchises.
We are fortunate in that, to this point, we have had an American-style owner (deep pockets, growth project) who has yet to siphon off funds or seek to cash in on the exponential growth of his original investment.
That said, it doesn’t mean that Mansour’s share dilution to Silver Lake isn’t EXACTLY what “taking cash out of the business” looks like.
Today, no-one can know what the future holds for the ADUG-Silver Lake balance, but it appears Manaour already has the American ownership lined up, if he chooses to sell up and move on.
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Silver Lake’s significant investment in Manchester City Football Club, through the City Football Group (CFG), stems from a strategic partnership aimed at leveraging the convergence of entertainment, sports, and technology.
In 2019, Silver Lake invested $500 million, acquiring approximately 10% of CFG, which was valued at $4.8 billion post-investment . This investment allows CFG to enhance its technology and infrastructure, fostering global growth and new revenue streams .
By increasing its stake to 18% in 2022, Silver Lake solidifies its role as a key player in CFG’s expansion strategy.
Silver Lake’s partnership with Manchester City Football Club could unlock several new revenue streams:
1. Cross-Promotion and Bundled Offerings: Collaborating with other brands could lead to co-branded merchandise and ticket packages, enhancing customer value and driving sales.
2. Expanded Market Reach: Leveraging Silver Lake’s expertise can help Manchester City penetrate new markets, attracting diverse customer segments and increasing brand visibility.
3. Digital Innovations: Investments in technology could enhance fan engagement through digital platforms, creating new monetization avenues like exclusive content or virtual experiences.
4. Affiliate Marketing Programs: Implementing referral programs can generate leads and sales through partnerships, expanding the customer base without significant upfront costs.
These initiatives can substantially increase Manchester City’s revenue potential in the evolving sports landscape.
Egon Durban will play a pivotal role in Manchester City’s future strategy through his position on the City Football Group (CFG) board.
His expertise in technology investments and global market dynamics will help drive CFG’s growth, particularly in leveraging the convergence of sports and entertainment.
Durban’s involvement aims to enhance fan engagement, expand market reach, and identify new revenue streams, aligning with CFG’s vision of redefining soccer globally.
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And that’s from just a quick search…of public information.
Simple investment growth strategy:
1) Global reach in key population markets through PL TV contracts & CFG Team Network.
2) Intersection of Sports, Entertainment and Technology (City name, eSports, Co-op Live, increasing internet footprint, including sale of in-house content to global media platforms such as Netflix (Together: Four in a Row) and also groundbreaking ventures like Amazon Prime’s “All or Nothing.”
BUT, it is ALL based on the successful halo club at the top of that pyramid and that success centers around:
1) A high PL position (£££),
2) Entry into the Champions League (£££), and especially the later knockout rounds (+£££),
3) Being one of the top clubs that is consistently on TV across the globe due to that success (£££),
4) An attractive ticket on the weekend (££) , including for tourists who spend BIG money to visit (££),
5) Having viable, successful Women’s and eSports teams (£+) that capture an audience that is not necessarily captured by the Men’s team, but which attract additional revenues.
When you find out how best to maximize profits, and where those profits get funneled, you’ll know why the PL is so attractive to American ownership.
These billionaires are uber-capitalists looking for a company (football team in a virtual monopoly situation) where they can print money, both in a subscription basis (TV revenues, season cards, sponsorships) and a simple “company valuation” basis.
One is the financial backdrop for the investment (increasing valuation of teams), while the other is the gift that keeps on giving, to either invest is the growing valuation, or in serving as seed money for other ventures, or (as the Glazers have done) as the capital needed to cover their other debts in other (sports) franchises.
We are fortunate in that, to this point, we have had an American-style owner (deep pockets, growth project) who has yet to siphon off funds or seek to cash in on the exponential growth of his original investment.
That said, it doesn’t mean that Mansour’s share dilution to Silver Lake isn’t EXACTLY what “taking cash out of the business” looks like.
Today, no-one can know what the future holds for the ADUG-Silver Lake balance, but it appears Manaour already has the American ownership lined up, if he chooses to sell up and move on.
-/-/-/-
Silver Lake’s significant investment in Manchester City Football Club, through the City Football Group (CFG), stems from a strategic partnership aimed at leveraging the convergence of entertainment, sports, and technology.
In 2019, Silver Lake invested $500 million, acquiring approximately 10% of CFG, which was valued at $4.8 billion post-investment . This investment allows CFG to enhance its technology and infrastructure, fostering global growth and new revenue streams .
By increasing its stake to 18% in 2022, Silver Lake solidifies its role as a key player in CFG’s expansion strategy.
Silver Lake’s partnership with Manchester City Football Club could unlock several new revenue streams:
1. Cross-Promotion and Bundled Offerings: Collaborating with other brands could lead to co-branded merchandise and ticket packages, enhancing customer value and driving sales.
2. Expanded Market Reach: Leveraging Silver Lake’s expertise can help Manchester City penetrate new markets, attracting diverse customer segments and increasing brand visibility.
3. Digital Innovations: Investments in technology could enhance fan engagement through digital platforms, creating new monetization avenues like exclusive content or virtual experiences.
4. Affiliate Marketing Programs: Implementing referral programs can generate leads and sales through partnerships, expanding the customer base without significant upfront costs.
These initiatives can substantially increase Manchester City’s revenue potential in the evolving sports landscape.
Egon Durban will play a pivotal role in Manchester City’s future strategy through his position on the City Football Group (CFG) board.
His expertise in technology investments and global market dynamics will help drive CFG’s growth, particularly in leveraging the convergence of sports and entertainment.
Durban’s involvement aims to enhance fan engagement, expand market reach, and identify new revenue streams, aligning with CFG’s vision of redefining soccer globally.
-/-/-/-
And that’s from just a quick search…of public information.
Simple investment growth strategy:
1) Global reach in key population markets through PL TV contracts & CFG Team Network.
2) Intersection of Sports, Entertainment and Technology (City name, eSports, Co-op Live, increasing internet footprint, including sale of in-house content to global media platforms such as Netflix (Together: Four in a Row) and also groundbreaking ventures like Amazon Prime’s “All or Nothing.”
BUT, it is ALL based on the successful halo club at the top of that pyramid and that success centers around:
1) A high PL position (£££),
2) Entry into the Champions League (£££), and especially the later knockout rounds (+£££),
3) Being one of the top clubs that is consistently on TV across the globe due to that success (£££),
4) An attractive ticket on the weekend (££) , including for tourists who spend BIG money to visit (££),
5) Having viable, successful Women’s and eSports teams (£+) that capture an audience that is not necessarily captured by the Men’s team, but which attract additional revenues.
ArtetaTechnicalArea
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Newcastle cant complain about spenditure. Gordon, Isak, Tonali all cos 60m each. Harvey Barnes, Livarmento, Lewis Hall - close to 100m on those three.Newcastle have been hamstrung by FFP / PSR doing what it’s was designed to do, ie stop another City. They are having to take a different approach and have improved the club in lots of ways. Looking at stadium plans, be that an extension to SJP or a new stadium this will generate additional funds Since they took over the team have become stable in the PL and had a season in UCL massive improvement Meanwhile Arsenal have spent many more millions and to date achieved nothing more than Newcastle
Those complaining about Newcastle spending limitations are lamenting the fact they cant just go out and offer 2m a week to Vini Jr. How many multiples should Newcastle be allowed to spend relative to thier rivals? If the PSR shackles were turned off, then Newcastle could just offer every clubs best players 4-5 times wage increases.
Poor Newcastle. They can't tap their owner's wealth to buy a ticket to the top, and instead have rules that ensure if they are to get to the top, they must so in a more organic way.
mexico1970
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Newcastle cant complain about spenditure. Gordon, Isak, Tonali all cos 60m each. Harvey Barnes, Livarmento, Lewis Hall - close to 100m on those three.
Those complaining about Newcastle spending limitations are lamenting the fact they cant just go out and offer 2m a week to Vini Jr. How many multiples should Newcastle be allowed to spend relative to thier rivals? If the PSR shackles were turned off, then Newcastle could just offer every clubs best players 4-5 times wage increases.
Poor Newcastle. They can't tap their owner's wealth to buy a ticket to the top, and instead have rules that ensure if they are to get to the top, they must so in a more organic way.
Or they should be able to spend what they want, if this was the rags or vermin we were talking about the criticism wouldn't even come up.
Newcastle will hopefully fuck the sky 4 off a peg or two, that includes the arse too.