The fact of the matter is that if it wasn’t for Chelsea originally and then City, United would be so financially dominant in the Premier League they would be racking up titles even in the post Ferguson era where they’re not run particularly well. It would be a Bayern Munich situation, possibly with the odd nod towards Arsenal and Liverpool. That would be ruining football. As it stands there have been 5 different winners of the Premier League in the last decade, contrast that with United winning 8 out of the first 11. It’s the complete opposite of ruining football.
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Are City really ruining football?
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Indeed.The fact of the matter is that if it wasn’t for Chelsea originally and then City, United would be so financially dominant in the Premier League they would be racking up titles even in the post Ferguson era where they’re not run particularly well. It would be a Bayern Munich situation, possibly with the odd nod towards Arsenal and Liverpool. That would be ruining football. As it stands there have been 5 different winners of the Premier League in the last decade, contrast that with United winning 8 out of the first 11. It’s the complete opposite of ruining football.
1992-93 - 2010-11: United Blackburn Arsenal Chelsea
(4 different winners in 19 seasons, with one club winning 64% of them)
2011-12 - 2020-21: City United Chelsea Leicester Liverpool
(5 different winners in 10 seasons, with one club winning 50% of them)
If it weren’t for City, I don’t think Leicester or Liverpool would have won titles in the last decade because United would have been too dominant. If it weren’t for Chelsea, I don’t think City would ever have bridged the gap to United before FFP came in. United would be on about 32 titles and 7 CLs by now as they’d just be so much richer and dominant over everyone else.
crazyg
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Yes, but apart from that, what have the Romans ever done for us?Indeed.
1992-93 - 2010-11: United Blackburn Arsenal Chelsea
(4 different winners in 19 seasons, with one club winning 64% of them)
2011-12 - 2020-21: City United Chelsea Leicester Liverpool
(5 different winners in 10 seasons, with one club winning 50% of them)
If it weren’t for City, I don’t think Leicester or Liverpool would have won titles in the last decade because United would have been too dominant. If it weren’t for Chelsea, I don’t think City would ever have bridged the gap to United before FFP came in. United would be on about 32 titles and 7 CLs by now as they’d just be so much richer and dominant over everyone else.
Musselburgh Blue
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I often find the narrative of City ruining football somewhat amusing when it's brought up by certain groups of fans across England. City have definitely had success, but are self sufficient now and run much more effectively. The rest need to play catch up and that's on them, but who needs hard work when you can point the finger at a club who have had some investment.
I'm born and bred Edinburgh and live in Musselburgh just outside the city on the east coast. As a kid, I went to watch Hibs since they were my local side, but grew increasingly fed up of it due to the Old Firm dominance. I now get my local football fix from ironically watching the Citizens up here, Edinburgh City in League Two (keep an eye on them!). The last team to win the title outside of Glasgow was Aberdeen and I was in nappies at the time in the mid 80's. That's a ruined football league and it's unrecoverable.
Some fans of other clubs like United, Liverpool, Arsenal and Spurs etc. should try supporting Hibs, Hearts or Motherwell - then they'll know what ruined football is... They all have money and resources to compete - and they will again. They need to get over it... nobody complained when it was the rags a number of years ago with their pop songs in the charts and all that bullshit.
I'm born and bred Edinburgh and live in Musselburgh just outside the city on the east coast. As a kid, I went to watch Hibs since they were my local side, but grew increasingly fed up of it due to the Old Firm dominance. I now get my local football fix from ironically watching the Citizens up here, Edinburgh City in League Two (keep an eye on them!). The last team to win the title outside of Glasgow was Aberdeen and I was in nappies at the time in the mid 80's. That's a ruined football league and it's unrecoverable.
Some fans of other clubs like United, Liverpool, Arsenal and Spurs etc. should try supporting Hibs, Hearts or Motherwell - then they'll know what ruined football is... They all have money and resources to compete - and they will again. They need to get over it... nobody complained when it was the rags a number of years ago with their pop songs in the charts and all that bullshit.
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tregyblue61
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They gave us that marching song:Yes, but apart from that, what have the Romans ever done for us?
"The famous man united went to Rome to see the.............
You know the rest ;)
crazyg
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Not heard that one.They gave us that marching song:
"The famous man united went to Rome to see the.............
You know the rest ;)
How does it go?
;-)
Alan Harper's Tash
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Look at those games in hand though…
Correct.Indeed.
1992-93 - 2010-11: United Blackburn Arsenal Chelsea
(4 different winners in 19 seasons, with one club winning 64% of them)
2011-12 - 2020-21: City United Chelsea Leicester Liverpool
(5 different winners in 10 seasons, with one club winning 50% of them)
If it weren’t for City, I don’t think Leicester or Liverpool would have won titles in the last decade because United would have been too dominant. If it weren’t for Chelsea, I don’t think City would ever have bridged the gap to United before FFP came in. United would be on about 32 titles and 7 CLs by now as they’d just be so much richer and dominant over everyone else.
Without Ambramovic and Sheikh Mansour changing the landscape then the only place where the likes of Drogba, Silva and Aguero would have rocked up in England would have been Old Trafford.
LongsightM13
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City are not ruining football.
City are ruining some football fans.
This is not what united and liverpool plastics signed up for.
Their lives will never be the same and never be how they expected it to turn out when they were arrogantly, gracelessly, classlessly lording it over us.
In fact, united fans are living our lives in reverse. Except they didn’t have the decades of character-building adversity to cope with being shit and the butt of the joke
City are ruining some football fans.
This is not what united and liverpool plastics signed up for.
Their lives will never be the same and never be how they expected it to turn out when they were arrogantly, gracelessly, classlessly lording it over us.
In fact, united fans are living our lives in reverse. Except they didn’t have the decades of character-building adversity to cope with being shit and the butt of the joke
Brightwell Bros.
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If you projected Chelsea's current point total over a season they wouldn't win the league in a single season from the last decade. Even Leicester would beat them. I'm in my 30s and you've always had to aim for 85 points to have the title in your own hands. The press can't hype up an exciting four-way title race and then get distressed when it doesn't happen: Liverpool, Chelsea, United have the pick of European footballers operating in the richest league in the world that two of those clubs were the architects in creating. Just a smidge of humility and history would be helpful when it comes to conversations about football and money.