Are we being ruined by to many mercenaries?

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An honest question to everyone.
Yes I know every club has players that have little affinity or passion for the team they play for.
They don't go to bed with a club teddy or curl up in bed with the club magazine. They play for their massive wage and little else.

But to me this is one of the root causes of City's problems at the moment, to many players swanning around, no showing enough passion, desire & commitment for the shirt. Being honest I don't think a lot of them want to be here do they?. Does Mario, does Yaya, does Tevez? I really don't think they do.

I want to see players running through brick walls & sweating blood sweat & tears for the badge.

Sadly we are not seeing this and this is a major if not the main problem. Money has bought us far but some of the fabric of the club is deteriorating with some of the players that are meant to be fulfilling our dreams.
 
I think this is the absolute root of our problem. Build a club on cash and greedy people and this is what you get.

We should have done a Mourinho at Chelsea, get the best up and coming people like he did with Drogba, Carvalho, Cech and people like that. they were big players but hungry, unproven players at the right age, not fat cats like Barry, Yaya, Balotelli, etc etc who made it clear to all that they didn't really want to come but that they came for the wages.

We shouldn't be throwing money at people til they come, the players should WANT to come. More Kompany's and less Yaya's and Balotellis and we might actually get somewhere.
 
Ok, what do we do then??
Last night was the most gutless display I've seen from a City side since Nicky Sumerbee and Co. were wearing sky blue. All this cash spent and it's come to this.
You have half this forum wanking over you tube clips of players in inferior leagues desperate to jump on the Manchester City gravy train. I haven't seen anyone shout stop. Truth is, we've been run shambolically since the cash has come in when it comes to all things football. A new approach and new personnel at the highest level is needed.

Balo and Dzecko's performance's last night were absolutely disgusting, I cannot begin to tell you how angry I was. Haven't they any professional pride? Before you all start banging on about 'service' and 'give them time' I wouldn't of cared about being hammered if the players showed a bit of character.
A fucking laughing stock is what some of those players are.
 
"Build a club on cash and greedy people and this is what you get."

totally agree with that...its horrible watching these fookers rake this cash in and do the minimum they can. there is no evidence of any team sprit whatsoever,i dont want to get rid of YET another manager AGAIN,but mancini is a fooking liability,at the mo,i just cant fathom his thinking,not to start with ndg an silva?????

look ballo,tevez,dont wanna be here, yaya is not interested either,kolorov is in a world of his own,barry an milner have left their hearts at villa,and not one of em cares enough about my club!!!!

we are fooked on sat,he will park the bus, and bore the pants of us an the rags ,after last night ,an try an nick one ....he aint got a clue,and when he goes at the end of the season,we are back to square one....AGAIN.
 
balkanno said:
Esteban de la Sexface said:
Yaya Toure lost a 50-50 with Jay Spearing last night. That is all you need to know
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Thats fantastic, he didnt moved 5 times in the Game and still got 50% duells.
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I have read this 5 times and still have no idea what it means!<br /><br />-- Tue Apr 12, 2011 10:27 am --<br /><br />
blutone3 said:
"Build a club on cash and greedy people and this is what you get."

totally agree with that...its horrible watching these fookers rake this cash in and do the minimum they can. there is no evidence of any team sprit whatsoever,i dont want to get rid of YET another manager AGAIN,but mancini is a fooking liability,at the mo,i just cant fathom his thinking,not to start with ndg an silva?????

look ballo,tevez,dont wanna be here, yaya is not interested either,kolorov is in a world of his own,barry an milner have left their hearts at villa,and not one of em cares enough about my club!!!!

we are fooked on sat,he will park the bus, and bore the pants of us an the rags ,after last night ,an try an nick one ....he aint got a clue,and when he goes at the end of the season,we are back to square one....AGAIN.
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Maybe parking the bus and stopping the scum scoring is our best chance of getting through.Attacking then and letting them break at us doesnt sound very hopeful to me unless you thnk we can score 2 or 3.I don't.
 
we attacked em at the swamp under hughes,i give you that we lost, but it was a great game and we scared the pants of em....lol
he is now shitting it after last night and so the italian will come out in him, it will be boring and we will lose,can you see anything else happening,even with the "typical City" factor????
 
I wish we would add a few grafters to the squad and proven premier league ones as we seem to be so weak at times, Liverpool just bullied us off the pitch last night and we had no answers.
 
This is the problem when you use big wads of cash to attract players, you end with guys that are here for one last big pay day. In the summer, we should aim for young, hungry players, that want to play at the highest level, and have a point to prove, guys like Lukaku, Chamberlain, Pastore, Gotze, etc. We should stop throwing money at players until they come, or put them on big money contracts. They should want to come here, to be part of history in the making, to play a major role in a previously underachieving club, aiming to be up there with the best. Money should not be the motivating factor. Yaya Toure has won everything with Barcelona, Barry wanted to join Liverpool, and Balotelli keeps making it clear he wants to be at Milan, these players would not run through brick walls for the club in the same ways that Kompany, De Jong, Bellamy, and Onuoha would. Thats the attitude we want.
 
Please don't tell me you didn't see this coming the moment we started buying this type of player?

And people saying play for the badge? Again, I'll be shocked if half of these players knew who City were 10 years ago.
 
it will be a breath of fresh air to have zabba back.. Had we have started with him lastnight and de jong it would have given us more bite .. Also swp would have been more up for it than most.. What he lacks in height he matches with heart.. jonno on the left, bring shauny back for the semi's, and get balls into the box.. if edin doesnt provide,, then we can judge.. 1st post on here guys, as you can see, so please dont give it the rag treatment eh?
 
Right because players at other clubs play just for the love and not the money. Thats why they stall at contract renegotiations and demand higher wages all the time. Get over yourselves "ruined" whats ruined about 4th place so far. FA cup quarters??

*sigh* We have been "ruined" by the large expectation the investment has bought and want immediate results. Thats whats ruined us.
 
It's not fun when you can't even respect half the squad on the pitch, or even the manager by the sideline.

I think we had something special going, when we bought in talent like Kompany, De Jong, Hart, Zabaleta. Combine that with some home-grown talent like Richards, Nimely, Guidetti, Johnson (?), Weiss, Trippier, Mee, Cunningham, Boyata, whatever, and we could be looking at a fine squad. Not a squad that would win the Premiership (although you never know...), but it would be a squad that I would respect and support, even when they lose. Because I know they would at least try.

Add a playmaker and some other shrewd buys for respectable fees on respectable contracts (see De Jong, Kompany etc.) and this could have been a great team, filled with players that really want to be here.

But what's done is done and this isn't something that be reversed. This will be a part of City history and I doubt it will be what we hoped for. That's my opinion. I think we can look forward to more players falling out with everybody in the future, throwing a fit on the pitch and in the locker room, walking whilst others are running, turning in transfer requests. Seriously, did Tevez think we would just forget? He hands in a fucking transfer request and he's the captain? It makes me sick to my stomach. It really does. The sooner that little wanker is out of the club the better, hopefully taking Balotelli, Adebayor, Kolarov, Boateng and anyone else that isn't worthy to wear the shirt with him.

Big clubs are plagued by so-called star players that hold it for ransom. This is common. I don't want the same for City.
 
Dux said:
It's not fun when you can't even respect half the squad on the pitch, or even the manager by the sideline.

I think we had something special going, when we bought in talent like Kompany, De Jong, Hart, Zabaleta. Combine that with some home-grown talent like Richards, Nimely, Guidetti, Johnson (?), Weiss, Trippier, Mee, Cunningham, Boyata, whatever, and we could be looking at a fine squad. Not a squad that would win the Premiership (although you never know...), but it would be a squad that I would respect and support, even when they lose. Because I know they would at least try.

Add a playmaker and some other shrewd buys for respectable fees on respectable contracts (see De Jong, Kompany etc.) and this could have been a great team, filled with players that really want to be here.

But what's done is done and this isn't something that be reversed. This will be a part of City history and I doubt it will be what we hoped for. That's my opinion. I think we can look forward to more players falling out with everybody in the future, throwing a fit on the pitch and in the locker room, walking whilst others are running, turning in transfer requests. Seriously, did Tevez think we would just forget? He hands in a fucking transfer request and he's the captain? It makes me sick to my stomach. It really does. The sooner that little wanker is out of the club the better, hopefully taking Balotelli, Adebayor, Kolarov, Boateng and anyone else that isn't worthy to wear the shirt with him.

Big clubs are plagued by so-called star players that hold it for ransom. This is common. I don't want the same for City.
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Very level headed, and absolutely correct.
 
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