PragueBlue
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We're not though. We are aligning our prices in line with our competitors and increasing them marginally per year instead of one mighty rise.
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Are You Doing Anything To Protest About The Latest Season Ticket Price Increase?
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We're not though. We are aligning our prices in line with our competitors and increasing them marginally per year instead of one mighty rise.
Prestwich_Blue
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The maximum it could bring in is £800k but probably a lot less, when you consider concessions. So maybe £600k tops and people will offset that by dropping Platinum, cup schemes, etc. If 4,000 people drop £50 from their overall expenditure, that's £200k less. So maybe a £400k net benefit at best. Meanwhile our expenses are £375m. If they can find savings of 0.1% on costs then it's covered and I can tell you from my experience of management consultancy that most companies can find cost savings of 5% without breaking sweat.I will leave it to the bigwigs of City to determine how much additional revenue we require.Not some half baked notion that £800K is fuck all over a season.
Me,you and a dog named Boo have no fucking idea what the long term plans of the club are and as the old saying goes "every penny counts".
Why should the club foot the additional bills of say Policing,Security etc.
In any walk of life additional costs are passed on to the consumer,in this case called the fans.You have an option,pay it or move to another supplier where you can save a few pennies.
The Club are not a charity anymore they are fucking big business and we have been self sufficient for 2-3 years now,NOT relying on HH for his pennies.Something that was spelt out to all fans from day one that he took over the Club.
Prestwich_Blue
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We don't charge less than every other club though, as I've said a number of times. Yes - there are some cheap tickets, maybe 2,500-3,000 but outside those we are comparable with United, Liverpool & Chelsea. In fact we have dearer standard ST's than all of those.Sheikh Mansour buys a club on the brink, pours BILLIONS into it, turns it into a commercial juggernaut, brings in some of the best talent in the world (both on the field and off it), gets us some silverware (FA Cup), delivers the first Championship (PL) in 44 years, wins some more League Cups, while winning the Premier League twice more, charges LESS than every other club (including some of the crappest in the League....and here we are.
Our range outside the cheap tickets (for non-hospitality seats) is £530-£1370. For comparison:
Rags are £532-£950
Chelsea are £595-£1250
Liverpool are £685-£869
So can we stop spouting this "We're cheaper than everyone else" myth.
dickie davies
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We're not though. We are aligning our prices in line with our competitors and increasing them marginally per year instead of one mighty rise.
What has any other club's pricing policy got to do with ours?
Some people say "look at Arsenal's and Tottenham's ticket prices. We're cheap"
Arsenal and Tottenham have made a commercial decision to charge a fortune and their supporters are absolute idiots for paying those prices when there is so much money swilling about in the game
As I've said earlier in this thread, City is on the verge of signing a new kit deal which will bring in an additional £20m-£40m
This increase in ticket prices is just about 4% of the minimum increase in kit revenue
TheRemainsOfTheDave
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Think about it
If the cost increases every year by £25
In year one you pay £25 more
Year two £50 more
Year three £75 more
Total £150
One big increase of £75 in year three = £75
Put it up £75 in year one and you've paid £225.
Either way, a significant rise in one season would probably affect people more than a little bit per year.
Exactly. The timing of the single increase would be key to my example. It's a lot easier to think in annual increments as it can be compared against annual inflation figures.
oakiecokie
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Thats the wonderful way of "becoming self sufficient".An easy model to follow for any company.Well we must be absolutely fucking desperate and in utter financial dire straights if we need to raise 0.016% extra through the gate
The maximum it could bring in is £800k but probably a lot less, when you consider concessions. So maybe £600k tops and people will offset that by dropping Platinum, cup schemes, etc. If 4,000 people drop £50 from their overall expenditure, that's £200k less. So maybe a £400k net benefit at best. Meanwhile our expenses are £375m. If they can find savings of 0.1% on costs then it's covered and I can tell you from my experience of management consultancy that most companies can find cost savings of 5% without breaking sweat.
Think the rise is to pay for the more security around the ground.
Sheikh Mansour buys a club on the brink, pours BILLIONS into it, turns it into a commercial juggernaut, brings in some of the best talent in the world (both on the field and off it), gets us some silverware (FA Cup), delivers the first Championship (PL) in 44 years, wins some more League Cups, while winning the Premier League twice more, charges LESS than every other club (including some of the crappest in the League....and here we are.
Maybe Mansour’s biggest mistake was buying a club outside London, where such seasoncard prices would be welcomed, and instead buying a club in one of the most economically depressed areas of England, where almost any amount for a seasoncard is too much, and an inflation price increase (in an era of almost exponential price increases in players and contracts) is an outrage.
Stupid fucker! Can’t do right for doing wrong! maybe he should have designated CFG as a registered charity?
Nobody is denying that. We've all thanked Sheikh Mansour a million times over. And he has every right to claw his money back and more. Our cheap season tickets and matchday tickets were always going to rise, to be comparable with other clubs, which they are now, as PB has shown. See above^^^^ So are we now finally at the point, or getting to the point, spread over 11 seasons, and 10 season ticket and matchday price rises, where season ticket prices and matchday ticket prices will be pegged, frozen(not even dropped), or is the club, Soriano, his commercial Directors, etc, going to keep on increasing matchday tickets and season ticket prices further, season after season? At what point, and at what figure are they going to stop? And at what point and at what figure are you and others going to finally say wait a minute, it's about time we at least had a prize freeze in season ticket and matchday ticket prices. £50 more? £100 more? 200 more? Or do we just carry on?
I know it's a bit of a lottery and you never know if it's a winning ticket or not until the balls are drawn. And many times on this forum have we discussed this issue. How many poor and bad players have City signed in the last 11 years, wasting £100's of millions on transfer fees, wages, agent fees, paying players off? As well as paying sacked Managers and coaching staff off. Please refer back to my lottery ticket comment.
We all know the players I'm talking about, who were scouted, looked at, and were deemed to be a piece in the future Manchester City jigsaw. But they didn't fit from day one. Those signings are failings. From the scouts upwards, to the person who finally signed off the transfer deal. Millions wasted, never to be recouped again. Yes, some players are worth a punt, but others, for the life of me, dear god, are dog shit and will always be. They were before they signed for City, after they signed for City, and have been since.
It's all relative. OK, increase season tickets by 3% and by more, season after season, over 11 seasons, to claw back a few hundred grand every season. But at the same time, don't use the rate of inflation and operating costs to justify it, while wasting millions on poor players, extending contracts for players by 1 season, and then not playing them, and every other waste of money idea and gimmick that the club dreams up every season to improve the *matchday experience*, etc.
Cut your cloth accordingly, and don't piss the money up the wall on things that aren't needed, while asking the fans to pay for inflation rises and operating costs. Really?
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Exeter Blue I am here
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Think the rise is to pay for the more security around the ground.
What, more useless blurts to half heartedly wave a detector over you, pat your pockets and say “what’s that?”, and when you answer “a cheese grate and a horse’s bridle”, just accept your word for it without looking?
oakiecokie
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Fucking hell that made me laugh ...but oh so true.What, more useless blurts to half heartedly wave a detector over you, pat your pockets and say “what’s that?”, and when you answer “a cheese grate and a horse’s bridle”, just accept your word for it without looking?