Are You Officially Priced Out Yet, Or Almost?

[moomba]

We shouldnt forget that the new TV deal should bring around an extra £30m every year, and the new champions league deal should bring in around another £30m a year as long as we continue to qualify. Great bonus for the club, and I'm sure the players will get their share. Good news all round.

 

[VOOMER]

Maybe the survey should also ask if we smoke. average of £7 for a pack of 20, say 60 fags a week, £1,092 a year. Also if City could be your domestic fuel supplier what would prompt you to use them?

Eh? You've lost me.

Last time I checked smoking is rather bad for your health and a waste of money. If City set up a domestic fuel supplier and gave discount to city card holders and even bigger for season ticket holders, as well as very low tariffs on the electricity and gas usage, the said fan would have more money available to watch City?

 

[Damanino]

I checked last years income stats from Deloitte Money League, how much % of all income is from matchday income (tickets, boxes, season tickets and probably food etc...)
2012-2013 season numbers:

City 39.6m/271m= 15%
MU 109m/363m= 30%
Arsenal 93m/243m= 38%
Chelsea 70m/260m=27%
Pool=45m/206m=22%
Tottenham=40.2m/147=27%

Matchday incomes in 2011-2012:

City 30.8m
MU 99m
Arsenal 95m
Chelsea 77.7m
Liverpool 45.2m
Tottenham 41m.

City imroved it a lot, about 33%.

Wonder is there similar growth to 13-14 season or around another 10m raise (25%)....

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Indeed, in arguably our worst ever season when we were relegated to the 3rd tier in 1997-98 there was uproar when Forest charged us £20 for a midweek game at the City Ground in September 1997 and that was because no other club in the division at the time was charging anything like those prices.

Fuck me, I remember that like it was yesterday. Where did the last 17 years go?

Frightening isn't it mate? That match was one of the few highlights of a disastrous season with Ged Brannan turning in a man of the match performance!

Indeed. I also remember Lee Bradbury all too briefly looking like a footballer that night.

 

[St Helens Blue (Exiled)]

Kiam

I am sorry but you have completely missed the point here.

You say "just save £12 per week".

You see the way you put it is that it's just £12 per week when in essence it is £48-£60 per month which in the real world not Kiams world is a lot of fucking money to a normal family. It is easy to say stop eating takeaways,canel your sky,drive a smaller car,live in a smaller house. Are you being serious?? I used to be of a similar mindset "Stop smoking" etc but this is a seperate issue. The issue we are trying to debate is the cost for normal families to go to football. Families who cannot afford the luxury of a couple of season tickets etc or families who are in a less fortunate position to yourself.
Yesterday I pulled out of the CL cup scheme. Not for the cost but simply because I have become annoyed with the fucking plastic ipad carrying so called fans sat around me in South Level 2 with their half and half scarves and the dogshit atmosphere.
Kiam I presume you have got no kids? Not that this is really relevent to debate however trust me kids make a huge impact on your finances. Whatever you earn,you live to your means. Bigger income = bigger mortgage bigger car normally. Not many people are lucky enough to just save a few hundred quid a month for a rainy day.
I find your lack of empathy towards other long standing blues with less disposable income than yourself quite shocking. I'm alright Jack is not the attitude to have on this subject. I know lads (including myself) who have not had a pay rise for 4 yrs now so do us a favour, show a little more empathy to others and you will go far in life.
Personally,I hope the club do listen to the groundswell of opinion on this. Next year will be interesting with the opening of the new stand,will ticket prices reduce...I hope for the fans who are currently missing out they do.

That's a better response than the one from the gormless **** who wished illness on Kiam's family, SHB but the kids issue is just one of the times when choices have to be made. Usually, football goes out of the window when a pan lid arrives due to cost/wife not working. Bigger income doesn't have to necessarily mean bigger mortgage or bigger car. Why should it unless you want to be seen as Billy Big Balls in your posh 5 bed detached.
Kiam's had a lot of stick on here due to how he's worded things (unless he's on a massive wind up) but the bottom line is we have to make choices as things get expensive.
If we charged £20 a pop for tickets plus food, drink, and transport, how can the people on JSA afford that?
That's one day out blowing all their benefit.
Some prick on here said they should be free.
How would ALL the City fans get in each week?
More people would be stopped from going due to demand.
Choices mate at the end of the day dictate priorities.

To be fair,i dont think of myself as billy big bollocks because i have a nice house and cars.
City are not giving much of a choice at these prices for many.

 

[CheethamHillBlue]

To be fair,i dont think of myself as billy big bollocks because i have a nice house and cars.
City are not giving much of a choice at these prices for many.

To be fair, i don't consider myself in the 'I'm alright Jack' brigade either. I assume yours was a generalisation as much as mine was.
I don't agree about City not giving a choice though.
Definite choice. Pay it or don't.
Love the £20 Forest ticket reminder from SEVENTEEN YEARS AGO.
Don't you think people had exactly the same choice in 1997?

 

[Millwallawayveteran1988]

To be fair,i dont think of myself as billy big bollocks because i have a nice house and cars.
City are not giving much of a choice at these prices for many.

To be fair, i don't consider myself in the 'I'm alright Jack' brigade either. I assume yours was a generalisation as much as mine was.
I don't agree about City not giving a choice though.
Definite choice. Pay it or don't.
Love the £20 Forest ticket reminder from SEVENTEEN YEARS AGO.
Don't you think people had exactly the same choice in 1997?

And in general people will pay it whilst the success keeps coming and will stop paying it when it doesn't.

If this is the price to pay for success as many say then it is also not the price to pay for failure.

The business model only works if success continues because new fans will quite easily jump ship if the football stops being entertaining and we stop winning things.

It would be much harder then to charge top end prices and expect people who have been priced out to come back. They wont. They probably wouldn't even if the prices are dropped.

Its a risky business model.

 

[St Helens Blue (Exiled)]

To be fair,i dont think of myself as billy big bollocks because i have a nice house and cars.
City are not giving much of a choice at these prices for many.

To be fair, i don't consider myself in the 'I'm alright Jack' brigade either. I assume yours was a generalisation as much as mine was.
I don't agree about City not giving a choice though.
Definite choice. Pay it or don't.
Love the £20 Forest ticket reminder from SEVENTEEN YEARS AGO.
Don't you think people had exactly the same choice in 1997?

The alright jack comment was aimed at kiam mainly..not yourself.Of course its about choice but to say you either pay it or you dont is a little bit simplistic.
We all want success..great players etc but is it down to the fans to keep payimg increasing prices?
The club could easily have kept prices the same this season..how.much extra tv money..cl money have we received? Sorry mate without the fans the club is nothing and to isolate those who are not so fortunate is a little bit risky as millwallveteran says.

 

[CheethamHillBlue]

The alright jack comment was aimed at kiam mainly..not yourself.Of course its about choice but to say you either pay it or you dont is a little bit simplistic.
We all want success..great players etc but is it down to the fans to keep payimg increasing prices?
The club could easily have kept prices the same this season..how.much extra tv money..cl money have we received? Sorry mate without the fans the club is nothing and to isolate those who are not so fortunate is a little bit risky as millwallveteran says.

I threw the 'I'm alright Jack' comment in as you and 4 or 5 others had used it.
As for choice, it is simplistic - take it or leave it.
As for the club keeping prices the same, they've shelled out how much to get us into the position we are in plus spending £200m+ on the academy across the road.
Expecting the owners to keep spending and spending is ludicrous.
Two quick questions for you.
There's a bloke on the dole, hasn't worked for a couple of months but has always followed City. He can't get to the match due to costs.

a) What should HE do?
b) What should the club do for him?

 

[moomba]

The alright jack comment was aimed at kiam mainly..not yourself.Of course its about choice but to say you either pay it or you dont is a little bit simplistic.
We all want success..great players etc but is it down to the fans to keep payimg increasing prices?
The club could easily have kept prices the same this season..how.much extra tv money..cl money have we received? Sorry mate without the fans the club is nothing and to isolate those who are not so fortunate is a little bit risky as millwallveteran says.

I threw the 'I'm alright Jack' comment in as you and 4 or 5 others had used it.
As for choice, it is simplistic - take it or leave it.
As for the club keeping prices the same, they've shelled out how much to get us into the position we are in plus spending £200m+ on the academy across the road.
Expecting the owners to keep spending and spending is ludicrous.
Two quick questions for you.
There's a bloke on the dole, hasn't worked for a couple of months but has always followed City. He can't get to the match due to costs.

a) What should HE do?
b) What should the club do for him?

You keep talking about the choice. If the club put up season ticket prices to £10000 per seat we all still have a choice. You be OK with that?

I don't expect the owners to keep spending for a start. I believe we are moving into profit, and made £90m from domestic TV revenue alone last season. £60m from champions league will not be too far from the mark so theres £150m windfall that could be used to help out the supporters that kept the club afloat during tougher times.

As for the bloke on the dole, I reckon £25 max for all general one off tickets is not unreasonable. It will still be a choice for this bloke but one that gives him the option of seeing the team at a reasonable price.

I don't expect the club to let people in for nothing, but when prices rise consistently above the rate of inflation, loyal blues miss out. And thats when I get worried about the strategy of the club.