You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an alternative browser.
You should upgrade or use an alternative browser.
Arsenal post match thread
- Thread starter Champions2012!
- Start date
Maybe you didn't see the quotation marks? Yes they had 3-4 chances, and took 2. We had at least 3-4 chances, and took 1. We had most of the possession and twice as many shots (only a couple more on target). Arsenal were poor; Stoke, Liverpool, even Swansea created more than them. Had we set up properly and marked Ozil (as Arsenal marked Silva) those first 2 chances that ended up as goals don't go in. Maybe you haven't watched City play the last few, but this was a large improvement...
The "unlucky" part is Walcott finishing it from where he did, probably a 1 in 10 at best, and KdB missing an 8 in 10 sixty seconds earlier.
If you think Arsenal were good in that game I'd be pretty surprised. Men against boys is total nonsense, they were clinical but had to be as they didn't keep possession well, didn't create many chances & didn't defend particularly well - we could have even nicked a point at the end, and could have won it had we set up properly.
I watch every city game to begin with, and the first 30 minutes were the best city have played for many a game yes. Other than this it was piss poor througout. Yaya scored from literally a punt at a half chance...same could be said of walcott but the 2nd? no.
It was men against boys in that they knew exactly what they needed to do, got 2 gaols, then sat back and defended with relative ease. They went with a clear plan, implemented it and watched city do next to nothing for the rest of the game. 20 chances on goal and how many were really good chances? I would only agree you were unlucky had the DeBruyne chance been more clear cut before they scored their first, but it ended up only a half chance as they covered the angles well on the backfoot.
If you think that game was unlucky then good for you lad, but anyone who watched without the handycap of bias will tell you otherwise. I like city, but honestly that was poor overall. At least Pellegrini, or hopefully Ancelotti in a temporary role, can work with what they did the first 30 minutes.
Training clearly needs to be overhauled...But manuel may aswell be in a faulty towers remake for his next role.
stablemcfc
Well-Known Member
- Joined
- 25 Oct 2014
- Messages
- 1,016
Aha. Maybe I'm being too optimistic, but over 2 legs we should beat Everton (we really should) and who knows if we get to the final we may actually turn up for that match..Write off for me whilst Pellegrini is the manager I don't see us beating Everton, and if we do, then it's Liverpool or Stoke neither who we can beat at the moment. Big if getting our best 11 fit as well
Blueband Brother
Well-Known Member
- Joined
- 21 Jul 2011
- Messages
- 4,091
We are almost half way through and after a promising start to the season I have to say that it has been very disappointing so far. The team has largely under performed. Today was a missed opportunity because Arsenal was not that great but like the Chelsea game at Stamford Bridge last season (which ended 1-1) where the players psychologically accepted that it was OK to dominate a toothless, abysmal Chelsea side and not actually go in for the kill because, well, it is Chelsea so we are doing well by just dominating possession. Arsenal today were not nearly as poor as Chelsea in that game, not even close, but I still retain that they were not that good. But we were content to just pass the ball about with slow pace without any direct desire and objectivity in terms of actually looking for a goal. When we finally stumbled on a counter attacking chance on the break, De Bruyne just needed to pass to Silva and it is a completely different game. Arsenal went and scored and then got another one before half time and it was an uphill task from then.
The lack of urgency and real threat in many ways falls down to Pellegrini's theoretical team selection rationale of ''oh we are playing Arsenal,lets play three in the middle of the park'' and lets leave real direct pacy threat on the bench''. But it is also the fault of the players who are ever too content to just shift the ball about without any urgency. The players needs to start taking more responsibility!!, leadership!!, honesty!. it is high time the manager and some folks ditch the theoretical conjectures of football tactics and go back to what works for this particular team and as it was at the start of the season, what works the best for this team is Sterling on the left, Navas on the right and then you fill in the blank spaces after that. They offer defensive cover better that any proverbial three man midfield and they offer direct threat going forward. The team ticks when those two players are on the pitch. Not the best in terms of talent but the best for the team. Europe is one thing but in the premier league, start these two players and the team will work.
Defensively the players have not really stepped up. Otamendi is inconsistent and unconvincing, Mangala is oafish and clumsy on the ball after starting very well with Kompany- we need Kompany back asap. Sagna has great character and works hard but he is getting a wee bit old and certainly exhausted and the loss of Zabaleta (even though he is getting on a bit) has been underrated this season. Kolarov still has his issues. So my recommendation will be the likes of Navas and Sterling tracking back ,supporting the full backs and in many instances actually tucking in to the middles , as they did at the start of the season when we were flying, at least until players return from injury or the players recover form. Pellegrini also needs to coach the team defensively as well.(on a side note and perhaps a bit harsh but Delph needs to start making the right decisions with his passing, I noticed it a few times today where he made wrong choices; De Bruyne needs to clutch up in big games and moments as well, he has cost us a few time already but on the other hand has scored some important goals...so..well I just need more from him)
Still half way through, a lot of football still to be played. I believe there is certainly an answer or solution to our problems but I fear it might be lost in the mist of pressure, opinions and I dare say, incompetence.
The lack of urgency and real threat in many ways falls down to Pellegrini's theoretical team selection rationale of ''oh we are playing Arsenal,lets play three in the middle of the park'' and lets leave real direct pacy threat on the bench''. But it is also the fault of the players who are ever too content to just shift the ball about without any urgency. The players needs to start taking more responsibility!!, leadership!!, honesty!. it is high time the manager and some folks ditch the theoretical conjectures of football tactics and go back to what works for this particular team and as it was at the start of the season, what works the best for this team is Sterling on the left, Navas on the right and then you fill in the blank spaces after that. They offer defensive cover better that any proverbial three man midfield and they offer direct threat going forward. The team ticks when those two players are on the pitch. Not the best in terms of talent but the best for the team. Europe is one thing but in the premier league, start these two players and the team will work.
Defensively the players have not really stepped up. Otamendi is inconsistent and unconvincing, Mangala is oafish and clumsy on the ball after starting very well with Kompany- we need Kompany back asap. Sagna has great character and works hard but he is getting a wee bit old and certainly exhausted and the loss of Zabaleta (even though he is getting on a bit) has been underrated this season. Kolarov still has his issues. So my recommendation will be the likes of Navas and Sterling tracking back ,supporting the full backs and in many instances actually tucking in to the middles , as they did at the start of the season when we were flying, at least until players return from injury or the players recover form. Pellegrini also needs to coach the team defensively as well.(on a side note and perhaps a bit harsh but Delph needs to start making the right decisions with his passing, I noticed it a few times today where he made wrong choices; De Bruyne needs to clutch up in big games and moments as well, he has cost us a few time already but on the other hand has scored some important goals...so..well I just need more from him)
Still half way through, a lot of football still to be played. I believe there is certainly an answer or solution to our problems but I fear it might be lost in the mist of pressure, opinions and I dare say, incompetence.
simon23
Well-Known Member
Disappointed but not disheartened
Expected to get dicked without Vinny but thought we deserved at least a point
Got to get Zabba and Vinny back. Sagna looks like he needs a good rest and Mangala is a car crash! Get Dave and Sergio fit and still confident we'll be champions in May
sick of the excuses...firstly it was when silva wa back it would change...it hasn't
then when run is back it will change ------it hasn't
now Kompany - yes he makes up for some of the deficiencies in the managers system but he won't last 10 games doing that before he is injured again ----- and I'm starting to wonder if there is more to this "injury" of Kompany's than we are led to believe - i think him and MP have fallen out big time........
tiggsywiggsywoo
Well-Known Member
- Joined
- 24 Jan 2012
- Messages
- 3,700
[QUORSGE="Chi-town blues, post: 9066934, member: 49310"]Summer whole sale.Fuck it... too many stars spoils the soup.[/QUOTE]
....WTF.....RAG
....WTF.....RAG
1961_vintage
Well-Known Member
- Joined
- 21 Sep 2009
- Messages
- 15,331
We seem to be tougher on ourselves on here than even the BBC, who have been pretty even-handed when compared to some of the scathing criticism in the match thread.
Chippy_boy
Well-Known Member
Losing away to Arsenal (and bossing the game for much part) is in no way a disaster, and in terms of our chances of winning te league, pretty irrelevant actually.
Get Kompany back and keep Aguero fit and we win the league, end of.
But carry on as we are and it's gone.
Get Kompany back and keep Aguero fit and we win the league, end of.
But carry on as we are and it's gone.
Gaylord du Bois
Well-Known Member
- Joined
- 16 Aug 2010
- Messages
- 29,259
- Location
- Great Umbrage.
- Team supported
- Glory Hunting Blue. Was Chelsea.
Right. Fuck it. The tree's coming down.
BillyShears
Well-Known Member
Deserved a point. Arsenal scored a worldy and from some terrible defensive play from Delph/Mangala. Particularly Mangala.
Pellegrini betrayed his own ideals tonight (not the first time this season away from home in a big game) and it bit him on the arse. Stick to what we know. Play your best attacking line up instead of fucking about with Delph/Dinho/Toure.
Pellegrini betrayed his own ideals tonight (not the first time this season away from home in a big game) and it bit him on the arse. Stick to what we know. Play your best attacking line up instead of fucking about with Delph/Dinho/Toure.