Arsenal Post Match Thread.

[geoff clipp]

i've given up caring, if the idiot that is Pep starts with Navas at right back with Zabaleta on the bench, then the fact he is a tactical genius is a myth.

Goes on and on about why we dont win because we dont take our chances, when the obvious failure in the way he plays is defending (or lack of it) .

Clearly he's given up on the league. He didnt give us any hope in the Chumps League and its he pining his hopes on the FA Cup to save his reputation of a 'trophy winner'. He'll fail on that as well.

He harped on about coming here to learn, but 9 months in, hasn;'t learned the simple fact that the English game involves a strong defence to be successful. Yet his gung-ho arrogance is costing us. He wont change. Thats why he wont win anything at City.Cos he too stupid to adapt to our game, he expects the game to change to his style.

And he's clearly shunning the leaders and strong personalities that will challenge him like Zabaleta, Kompany so he feels like the king of his castle. Thats the reason Hart was ousted, Joe would have been a loud voice in the dressing room when things were going wrong, Vinny, would have done that, Aguero has had a say and is only playing cos Jesus is injured, Zaba will say things when they arent going right. Pep is punishing those players that fight for City when we need them by not playing them. Not saying Sterling, Sane, Ferny Kev etc arent doing their bit, but they arent the types to question the gaffer, rather say "yes sir".

I hope he changes. I hope he brings a solidity to out defence to compliment our attack. Chelsea and Spurs have no problem finding the balance, so if Pep is a genius, he should be able to too. But i dont think he will. Season is over for me.

Don't be daft. Anyone can argue that a strong defence is required but we just dont have the players. Kompany's injuries have brought his career to an end at City not Guardiola. Time has caught up on Zabaleta and that isn't Guardiola's fault either. I'm sure if he had those two players four years ago and injury free available to him then he'd happily play them. He's had leaders in all of the teams he's managed and there no evidence that he has a problem with strong characters. He might have moved the odd bad apple on in the past but the truth zaba and kompany can't be relied upon anymore. Whatever you think of navas, it's not that much of a stretch to understand why he wanted someone with a bit of pace back there.

 

[CrownPointBlue]

We are very close talent wise but it's the winning mentality & killer instinct that's missing.

We should have gone for their throat at 1-0. The next goal would've demoralised them. Inexplicably we gradually conceded control. Bewildering.

Munchen destroyed a better arse side. That's the difference

 

[CrownPointBlue]

Don't be daft. Anyone can argue that a strong defence is required but we just dont have the players. Kompany's injuries have brought his career to an end at City not Guardiola. Time has caught up on Zabaleta and that isn't Guardiola's fault either. I'm sure if he had those two players four years ago and injury free available to him then he'd happily play them. He's had leaders in all of the teams he's managed and there no evidence that he has a problem with strong characters. He might have moved the odd bad apple on in the past but the truth zaba and kompany can't be relied upon anymore. Whatever you think of navas, it's not that much of a stretch to understand why he wanted someone with a bit of pace back there.

Navas wasn't the problem yesterday it was Kun AGAIN !!

 

[Tbilisi]

Would have settled for a point pre match but after upset we did not get all 3.

I lost count at the amount of times the Left Back overlapped in the first half to get crosses in and expected it to be sorted at ht but clearly wasnt as the corner that produced the 2nd goal came from this.

Happened at Monaco too so no blame on Navas.

I wonder if Pep thinks its better to not worry about the overlap,let the cross come in and then deal with it? Its the only conclusion I can come to.

 

[CrownPointBlue]

We played well, you intimated we didn't either support the team or go away, for good.

Beg pardon.

Confused.com.

 

[City_Sean]

Don't be daft. Anyone can argue that a strong defence is required but we just dont have the players. Kompany's injuries have brought his career to an end at City not Guardiola. Time has caught up on Zabaleta and that isn't Guardiola's fault either. I'm sure if he had those two players four years ago and injury free available to him then he'd happily play them. He's had leaders in all of the teams he's managed and there no evidence that he has a problem with strong characters. He might have moved the odd bad apple on in the past but the truth zaba and kompany can't be relied upon anymore. Whatever you think of navas, it's not that much of a stretch to understand why he wanted someone with a bit of pace back there.

Take your point about the defenders but Pep decided to keep all four fullbacks despite none of them being good enough. He's got some calls massively wrong this season.

 

[BlueAnorak]

i've given up caring, if the idiot that is Pep starts with Navas at right back with Zabaleta on the bench, then the fact he is a tactical genius is a myth.

Goes on and on about why we dont win because we dont take our chances, when the obvious failure in the way he plays is defending (or lack of it) .

Clearly he's given up on the league. He didnt give us any hope in the Chumps League and its he pining his hopes on the FA Cup to save his reputation of a 'trophy winner'. He'll fail on that as well.

He harped on about coming here to learn, but 9 months in, hasn;'t learned the simple fact that the English game involves a strong defence to be successful. Yet his gung-ho arrogance is costing us. He wont change. Thats why he wont win anything at City.Cos he too stupid to adapt to our game, he expects the game to change to his style.

And he's clearly shunning the leaders and strong personalities that will challenge him like Zabaleta, Kompany so he feels like the king of his castle. Thats the reason Hart was ousted, Joe would have been a loud voice in the dressing room when things were going wrong, Vinny, would have done that, Aguero has had a say and is only playing cos Jesus is injured, Zaba will say things when they arent going right. Pep is punishing those players that fight for City when we need them by not playing them. Not saying Sterling, Sane, Ferny Kev etc arent doing their bit, but they arent the types to question the gaffer, rather say "yes sir".

I hope he changes. I hope he brings a solidity to out defence to compliment our attack. Chelsea and Spurs have no problem finding the balance, so if Pep is a genius, he should be able to too. But i dont think he will. Season is over for me.

OTT but there is no doubt that Pep is not getting the best out of the players he has and he certainly has questions to answer about his tactics and substitutions.

 

[Ancient Citizen]

What is it with City and corners? Every time we are awarded one I have no confidence whatsoever, we never, ever,
make anything from them, to the point now where I don't give a shit if we're awarded one or not.
It shouldn't be like this, a corner is a big advantage, and should be exploited far more often than this teams offerings,
yet we get umpteen every fucking match with the same dreary conclusion.

 

[cyberblue]

I thought it was a brilliant game to watch both sides going for it only poor finishing and bad defending stopped us having a great victory .could watch football like that every day

 

[richards30]

I thought it was a brilliant game to watch both sides going for it only poor finishing and bad defending stopped us having a great victory .could watch football like that every day

really?? I thought we were poor to be honest mate and the set up and formation was defo all wrong! we started brilliantly but then for some reason backed off and in that first half arsenal swarmed through our midfield and poor navas was targeted straight away with literally no help from sterling. defence is still shocking and I still see no reason why vinny is not given a chance in there? if he is fit then the defence can surely only be better with vinny there? clichy is a shambles these days and it looked for the first time that the players who are out of contract didn't give a shit about their performance.