Arsenal Post Match Thread.

waspish said:
If we getting at least 6 1st team players for next season for me that makes it another transition season!

Be so hard to have half a new team and win the league
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Transition is the new City buzzword , Pellegrini was a trasition manager- keeping the seat warm for Pep -we afforded the club as fans the benefit of the doubt , we were talking 18 months ago of this amazing opportunity we would have when the current crop of players contracts would be running out and we could have the best transfer window the world has ever seen , we talked about transition then and we are still talking about transition now , the whole club feels like it's fucking sleep walking , so by all accounts our best season will be the 18/19 season- Peps third and final season he's contracted to the club for, yup- it's a transition.
 
Metalartin said:
Simon you are so wrong on the mechanics of the human body that I will say you must be fucking comical to watch playing football. No you do not stretch your arm out like that to head a ball, that IS what we call an unnatural hand position he knew he wasn't getting there... Look at the replay... look at where his had really is and the re-enactment he does for Aguero which you comically stated as an argument in your defence.

Oh and drop the "you're getting personal because you know I'm right" no because you're going round in circles talking dribble I've already addressed pages ago, you're ignorant and wrong... it was a penalty.
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why should i drop the getting personal bit..you are with comments like th rpevious one....you dont know me and never will. you have no idea what my history with football is and again never will so the aim of your comment was clearly to be personal and to annoy....stick to facts about the game...

you move your arms upwards and forward/infront of you in any kind of jump.....that is basic mechanics of the human body....you do it to create lift...its basic so im not sure which bit you disagree with.....ive never seen anyone jump in sport with using their arms to help create propulsion or lift

little kids doing it



a triple jumper explaining it


arm action on high jump


wathc this guys arms when jumping


watch the arms swing upward here as well




all of it show use of raising arms forward and fast to jump...forward and upward in a swinging motion......
 
Lot of moaning on here, a point at Arsoles is hardly a disaster given our record there, we obviously need an improvement in defensive midfield and fullback if we know it pep will, have faith. At least we are entertaining:-)
 
All teams including very good ones have poor games .
I would agree with people that we played poorly today however I don't agree with people who claim that we lacked effort and passion, we ran further than Arsenal today and we still chased and harried. We played poorly largely through inaccurate passing and once again when we played poorly unfortunately a resolute defense did not help us which is usually how the best teams escape when they have bad game.
Despite playing poorly and passing poorly we still had more possession than Arsenal had more shots than Arsenal and more shots on target. Now Arsenal are in a bit of a down phase at the moment but here are not many teams that do that at the Emirates and very few indeed that do it when playing poorly.
 
jimmygrimblesboots said:
Monreal f*cked up and missed his header , his left arm made a movement towards the ball and his right arm immediately went up in the air protesting his innocence like a guilty schoolboy , its a nailed on penalty. We shaded the game overrall and if the goal posts were a couple of inches thinner and the gooner gets sent off for his obvious 2nd yellow , we win in a canter.
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goal posts thinner......!!!!....never going to happen is it so a pointless contribution

i agree on the sending off....ive said that numerous times now.....cocqulin should have gone for a second yellow when he clatterd into (KDB?) when on a break away....stone wall certain.

i agree monreal misses his header as he is trecthing but the handball isnt deliberate at all....he even says that to kun..it comes off his head and hits his arm...his arms are moving that way cause thats what happens when you jump
 
simon23 said:
why should i drop the getting personal bit..you are with comments like th rpevious one....you dont know me and never will. you have no idea what my history with football is and again never will so the aim of your comment was clearly to be personal and to annoy....stick to facts about the game...

you move your arms upwards and forward/infront of you in any kind of jump.....that is basic mechanics of the human body....you do it to create lift...its basic so im not sure which bit you disagree with.....ive never seen anyone jump in sport with using their arms to help create propulsion or lift

little kids doing it



a triple jumper explaining it


arm action on high jump


wathc this guys arms when jumping


watch the arms swing upward here as well




all of it show use of raising arms forward and fast to jump...forward and upward in a swinging motion......
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Did you watch the replay???

You do realise he's not in the air don't you?

Is it impossible to jump for a header with your hands tucked by your sides? They teach all footballers how to do this to avoid giving fouls away, being the expert you seem to want to pretend you are I would have thought you'd know this was possible.

More importantly if you had bothered to watch the replay(it sounds very much like you haven't) his hand goes out infront of him not to the side... do you do a superman pose every time you head a ball simon?
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You may argue "he's off balance", that's his own doing it's like excusing a player for mistiming a player the way you're going on.
 
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flb said:
Transition is the new City buzzword , Pellegrini was a trasition manager- keeping the seat warm for Pep -we afforded the club as fans the benefit of the doubt , we were talking 18 months ago of this amazing opportunity we would have when the current crop of players contracts would be running out and we could have the best transfer window the world has ever seen , we talked about transition then and we are still talking about transition now , the whole club feels like it's fucking sleep walking , so by all accounts our best season will be the 18/19 season- Peps third and final season he's contracted to the club for, yup- it's a transition.
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No its the new fans buzzword pep will expect to us to compete and win every competition we are in.
 
Peggy's a blue said:
Lot of moaning on here, a point at Arsoles is hardly a disaster given our record there, we obviously need an improvement in defensive midfield and fullback if we know it pep will, have faith. At least we are entertaining:-)
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That was like watching 2 pub teams slugging it out today , the only real quality were the two City finishes , mis placed passes, high uninspiring corner kicks , shit tackling , niggly fouls all over the pitch , humping it long into midfield , entertaining dog shit , so yes your probably right- it's the sort of neutral game you'd watch shaking your head at how shit it was.
 
O.K so KDB's tackling is shit and his positional play in defence is shit, but what pisses me off most is when he/we lose the ball he just jogs back instead of busting a gut to get goal side as Zabba showed later. Pep got on Sergio's case about his work rate and covering, well he should damn well get on KDB's.
 
The person I'm most pissed off with is myself, allowing myself to think we would be really up for these two games v Arsenal and Chelsea and the title race might just have been back on again.

How stupid am I.

Team gave up on the title weeks ago.
 
flb said:
Transition is the new City buzzword , Pellegrini was a trasition manager- keeping the seat warm for Pep -we afforded the club as fans the benefit of the doubt , we were talking 18 months ago of this amazing opportunity we would have when the current crop of players contracts would be running out and we could have the best transfer window the world has ever seen , we talked about transition then and we are still talking about transition now , the whole club feels like it's fucking sleep walking , so by all accounts our best season will be the 18/19 season- Peps third and final season he's contracted to the club for, yup- it's a transition.
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Yep it does my head in. Time to deliver.
 
bucks said:
O.K so KDB's tackling is shit and his positional play in defence is shit, but what pisses me off most is when he/we lose the ball he just jogs back instead of busting a gut to get goal side as Zabba showed later. Pep got on Sergio's case about his work rate and covering, well he should damn well get on KDB's.
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And some on here were giving Aguero grief for not adapting- Kevs miles away from being a Pep player at the minute.
 
Metalartin said:
Did you watch the replay???

You do realise he's not in the air don't you?

Is it impossible to jump for a header with your hands tucked by your sides?

More importantly if you had bothered to watch the replay(it sounds very much like you haven't) his hand goes out infront of him not to the side... do you do a superman pose every time you head a ball simon?
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of course you can jump with your hands besides your side....hae you ever seen a pro sportsman do it though....no cause its not the best way to do it....all those videos show that hand and arm movement forward and upwards is absolutely natural when tryng to jump/propell yourself forward (we even do it when running)- basic mechanics which is what monreal is trying to do....yes he miss times it...yes it comes off his head and brushes his arm but in no way is it deliberate....if it was given against us i would have been livid....

ps yes i wathced the giff someone put on here numerous times just so you dont think im avoiding anyting you put.....it has not changed my mind

we didnt win.....didnt really deserve to from our poor play (even though arsenal were also poor)....we should have won and would have won if we had played anywhere near our best.

people on here constantly blaming refs is laugable...people are getting their excuses in even before the games with what they are posting.....just in case....its a defense mechanism but i digress

We werent good today...thats all i care about. Our performance was well below par and we can (and will) play better
 
simon23 said:
of course you can jump with your hands besides your side....hae you ever seen a pro sportsman do it though....no cause its not the best way to do it....all those videos show that hand movement forward and upwards is absolutely natural when tryng to jump/propell yourself forward (we even do it when running) which is what monreal is trying to do....yes he miss times it...yes it comes off his head and brushes his arm but in no way is it deliberate....if it was given against us i would have been livid....
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You're telling me a premier league defender doesn't try his very best to tuck his arm in(maybe elbows out slightly but that's not what we have here) when challenging for headers in close proximity to other players? You've never seen that? That's interesting.
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Penalty all day long, he's not even off the ground you don't need to do superman pose to "propel yourself" forward simon, I've played football thankyou. If he is off balance there it's because he's over stretched himself for it, like I said in my edit... do we excuse a mistimed challenge even if it is a genuine mistake... no we don't because it's their mistake none the less, he fucked up and he got away with one now stop talking absolute garbage to save face.
 
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simon23 said:
of course you can jump with your hands besides your side....hae you ever seen a pro sportsman do it though....no cause its not the best way to do it....all those videos show that hand and arm movement forward and upwards is absolutely natural when tryng to jump/propell yourself forward (we even do it when running)- basic mechanics which is what monreal is trying to do....yes he miss times it...yes it comes off his head and brushes his arm but in no way is it deliberate....if it was given against us i would have been livid....

ps yes i wathced the giff someone put on here numerous times just so you dont think im avoiding anyting you put.....it has not changed my mind

we didnt win.....didnt really deserve to from our poor play (even though arsenal were also poor)....we should have won and would have won if we had played anywhere near our best.

people on here constantly blaming refs is laugable...people are getting their excuses in even before the games with what they are posting.....just in case....its a defense mechanism but i digress

We werent good today...thats all i care about. Our performance was well below par and we can (and will) play better
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It's a completely unacceptable performance for me at this stage, in terms of "tactics" and a basic lack of bollocks.

Pep is treading water and it is stinking up the place trying to do so.

We are seemingly going backwards beating the press, a goalkeeper who can't pass for shit, long or short, and a left-back who is personally responsible for at least 12 dropped points this season and yet we continue to persist with him.

A KDB who needs a good slap, right now, with a pass completion which must be close to 20 per cent for the last ten games?

A Yaya back to not giving a fuck because he knows he's offski, and poor Fernandinho running around attempting to put fires out all over the place.

We are putting all our eggs in one basket right now and we are nowhere near good enough to be doing that.
 
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