Arsenal Thread 2014/15

[stony]

Again, media perpetuated nonsense this top 4 trophy. We've had shitty runs in recent years where we've been miles of the top 4 then made a run where we've won almost every game to get into top 4, that and also the fact almost everyone seems to predict this will be the year we'll drop out makes it sweet when we gt in but I've not met a single fan who considers it a 'trophy', it really is the biggest pile of bollocks the media spin which people like you lap up.

As for your other part, why would it make us vulnerable anymore then it would you if a billionaire brought a club? it may have done 3/4 years ago when we didn't have any money but we can pretty much compete for any player that you or any other team can apart from maybe 1 or 2 crazy 250k a week signings which we don't do but from the looks of it neither do you anymore.

We would be no more vulnerable then any of the other top 4.

Sick and tired of Arsenal fans repeating this myth about not having any money. You had plenty but chose not to spend it. This is because your owners don't want to spend a penny but like the Glazers want to take money out. So they fleece you all with the highest priced tickets in the Prem and like mugs you pay it and lap up the bullshit they tell you.

Ok maybe the wrong way to put it yes we had money but we (quite responsibly) decided to use it all to pay off our stadium debts which means we didn't have the money for big transfer fees and wages. Come on regardless of what you think of wenger, he isn't an idiot do you really think he was happy buying players like denilson bendnter eboue etc?

we ran our club VERY well i think during that time....and no its not about lapping it up but whats the alternative, we just stop supporting our team??

It was ran very well if the aim was to keep you in the European places whilst still making a profit so your owners could take out a nice slice.
Your owners had no intention of challenging for the Premier League title and I don't think they ever will. As long as they get their pay day and have reasonable success then they are happy.
In my opinion there are only 3 teams in the Prem who are prepared to spend what is required for a genuine shot at the title. Chelsea, the rags and us.
If I was an Arsenal fan, paying the prices that you do, whilst the club has little ambition but to stay on the gravy train, I would be mightily pissed off.
Your club could mount a serious challenge for the title, but it won't. For a club with your resources I think that is shocking.

 

[afc16]

You forgot to include the 'We made top 4' trophies you won.

Nothing personal, but I look forward to the day another billionaire invests in a PL club and the top 4 is no longer guaranteed for Arsenal. Hopefully, that would make lot of your fellow fans show a little more humility towards other clubs fans and the some of the self-entitled feckwits go back to supporting Orient, Watford, Barnet etc..

Again, media perpetuated nonsense this top 4 trophy. We've had shitty runs in recent years where we've been miles of the top 4 then made a run where we've won almost every game to get into top 4, that and also the fact almost everyone seems to predict this will be the year we'll drop out makes it sweet when we gt in but I've not met a single fan who considers it a 'trophy', it really is the biggest pile of bollocks the media spin which people like you lap up.

As for your other part, why would it make us vulnerable anymore then it would you if a billionaire brought a club? it may have done 3/4 years ago when we didn't have any money but we can pretty much compete for any player that you or any other team can apart from maybe 1 or 2 crazy 250k a week signings which we don't do but from the looks of it neither do you anymore.

We would be no more vulnerable then any of the other top 4.

You are likely to be more vulnerable based on the fact that it has been several years since you finished in the top 2. Our recent record suggests we are less likely to struggle than yourselves.

I wouldn't agree with that simply based on the fact that those previous seasons has nothing to do with anything now or in the future. All that matters is who are the strongest teams now and really there isn't a huge amount in it between the top 3, the biggest gap is probably from that to utd. So if any other club was to suddenly get brought out and start buying superstars, you and chelsea would be just as vulnerable as us. We may not have finished in the top 2 for a few years but we've also finished in the top 4 for 15 years so if you are going to use any pattern, surely you should use that one of consistency.

 

[goalmole]

Again, media perpetuated nonsense this top 4 trophy. We've had shitty runs in recent years where we've been miles of the top 4 then made a run where we've won almost every game to get into top 4, that and also the fact almost everyone seems to predict this will be the year we'll drop out makes it sweet when we gt in but I've not met a single fan who considers it a 'trophy', it really is the biggest pile of bollocks the media spin which people like you lap up.

As for your other part, why would it make us vulnerable anymore then it would you if a billionaire brought a club? it may have done 3/4 years ago when we didn't have any money but we can pretty much compete for any player that you or any other team can apart from maybe 1 or 2 crazy 250k a week signings which we don't do but from the looks of it neither do you anymore.

We would be no more vulnerable then any of the other top 4.

Sick and tired of Arsenal fans repeating this myth about not having any money. You had plenty but chose not to spend it. This is because your owners don't want to spend a penny but like the Glazers want to take money out. So they fleece you all with the highest priced tickets in the Prem and like mugs you pay it and lap up the bullshit they tell you.

Ok maybe the wrong way to put it yes we had money but we (quite responsibly) decided to use it all to pay off our stadium debts which means we didn't have the money for big transfer fees and wages. Come on regardless of what you think of wenger, he isn't an idiot do you really think he was happy buying players like denilson bendnter eboue etc?

we ran our club VERY well i think during that time....and no its not about lapping it up but whats the alternative, we just stop supporting our team??

You spent your money as you saw fit. It's a shame that your club was one of those that tried to put obstacles in our way when it came to our turn to spend our money as we saw fit.

 

[ianw16]

The whole bloody thing is an absolute joke. These sanctimonious pricks have been giving us sh*te for years. They have a fanbase that mostly lives in Berkshire, Hertfordshire and Bedfordshire, and that's just the "locals".
Absolute shower of sh*te. They have no clue about supporting your "local team".
However, they are happy to preach to the rest of us about how 'holy and sacred' Arsenal Football Club are/ have been.
F*ck them. They are the biggest hypocrites on the planet. As I have said elsewhere, I hope their stadium falls down and Wenger gets AIDS. Horribly despicable club.
Up there with the Rags and Dippers for self-entitlement. Screw them. Hope they go bust.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Yes they would also be like the 10+ we have won to your 4 in the last 15 years or so....as i said above see how easy it is to just pick your own timeline to suit your attempted put down...point is no one is talking about last 4 or last 10 or last 15 years, we are discussing this season

You could do worse than try to remember you're a guest on a MCFC forum. If you want to keep on having snidey little pops at us, why not go on an Arsenal forum and do it. I'm sure you'll find other like-minded souls there. I would never dream of going on another club's forum and slagging them off. It's childish, petty behaviour.

He's only giving back what he's getting, which is fair enough imo.

Completely agree.

 

[dennishasdoneit]

The whole bloody thing is an absolute joke. These sanctimonious pricks have been giving us sh*te for years. They have a fanbase that mostly lives in Berkshire, Hertfordshire and Bedfordshire, and that's just the "locals".
Absolute shower of sh*te. They have no clue about supporting your "local team".
However, they are happy to preach to the rest of us about how 'holy and sacred' Arsenal Football Club are/ have been.
F*ck them. They are the biggest hypocrites on the planet. As I have said elsewhere, I hope their stadium falls down and Wenger gets AIDS. Horribly despicable club.
Up there with the Rags and Dippers for self-entitlement. Screw them. Hope they go bust.

Completely agree.....

 

[afc16]

Sick and tired of Arsenal fans repeating this myth about not having any money. You had plenty but chose not to spend it. This is because your owners don't want to spend a penny but like the Glazers want to take money out. So they fleece you all with the highest priced tickets in the Prem and like mugs you pay it and lap up the bullshit they tell you.

Ok maybe the wrong way to put it yes we had money but we (quite responsibly) decided to use it all to pay off our stadium debts which means we didn't have the money for big transfer fees and wages. Come on regardless of what you think of wenger, he isn't an idiot do you really think he was happy buying players like denilson bendnter eboue etc?

we ran our club VERY well i think during that time....and no its not about lapping it up but whats the alternative, we just stop supporting our team??

It was ran very well if the aim was to keep you in the European places whilst still making a profit so your owners could take out a nice slice.
Your owners had no intention of challenging for the Premier League title and I don't think they ever will. As long as they get their pay day and have reasonable success then they are happy.
In my opinion there are only 3 teams in the Prem who are prepared to spend what is required for a genuine shot at the title. Chelsea, the rags and us.
If I was an Arsenal fan, paying the prices that you do, whilst the club has little ambition but to stay on the gravy train, I would be mightily pissed off.
Your club could mount a serious challenge for the title, but it won't. For a club with your resources I think that is shocking.

well yes the aim was to keep us in the cl places whilst making a profit, but to pay the stadium debt rather then owners taking out a nice slice. I'm not HUGELY interested in stuff like that so i might be wrong but i don't recall any story of shareholders taking out massive dividends from the club during that time. there would have been uproar and quite rightly - fans can begrudgingly accept if the money is being used for what it was supposed to be i.e. paying the stadium debt but not if its being used for nice dividends.

i also disagree with your second point, we've spent money last 2 windows. we didn't need to buy £40m players just to stay in the top 4 and if you are so quick to put those buys down to simply a desire to stay in the top 4 rather then challenge for title, i could quite easily say utd spent all that money just to get back in the top 4 rather then to win title. we obviously weren't going to instantly win the title once we came out of the tight period, it was always going to take a few years of building but its getting there. right now we probably need a better gk and a top level striker from being able to challenge for the title.

 

[afc16]

The whole bloody thing is an absolute joke. These sanctimonious pricks have been giving us sh*te for years. They have a fanbase that mostly lives in Berkshire, Hertfordshire and Bedfordshire, and that's just the "locals".
Absolute shower of sh*te. They have no clue about supporting your "local team".
However, they are happy to preach to the rest of us about how 'holy and sacred' Arsenal Football Club are/ have been.
F*ck them. They are the biggest hypocrites on the planet. As I have said elsewhere, I hope their stadium falls down and Wenger gets AIDS. Horribly despicable club.
Up there with the Rags and Dippers for self-entitlement. Screw them. Hope they go bust.

what an embarrassment of a post.....

 

[aguero93:20]

Ok maybe the wrong way to put it yes we had money but we (quite responsibly) decided to use it all to pay off our stadium debts which means we didn't have the money for big transfer fees and wages. Come on regardless of what you think of wenger, he isn't an idiot do you really think he was happy buying players like denilson bendnter eboue etc?

we ran our club VERY well i think during that time....and no its not about lapping it up but whats the alternative, we just stop supporting our team??

It was ran very well if the aim was to keep you in the European places whilst still making a profit so your owners could take out a nice slice.
Your owners had no intention of challenging for the Premier League title and I don't think they ever will. As long as they get their pay day and have reasonable success then they are happy.
In my opinion there are only 3 teams in the Prem who are prepared to spend what is required for a genuine shot at the title. Chelsea, the rags and us.
If I was an Arsenal fan, paying the prices that you do, whilst the club has little ambition but to stay on the gravy train, I would be mightily pissed off.
Your club could mount a serious challenge for the title, but it won't. For a club with your resources I think that is shocking.

well yes the aim was to keep us in the cl places whilst making a profit, but to pay the stadium debt rather then owners taking out a nice slice. I'm not HUGELY interested in stuff like that so i might be wrong but i don't recall any story of shareholders taking out massive dividends from the club during that time. there would have been uproar and quite rightly - fans can begrudgingly accept if the money is being used for what it was supposed to be i.e. paying the stadium debt but not if its being used for nice dividends.

i also disagree with your second point, we've spent money last 2 windows. we didn't need to buy £40m players just to stay in the top 4 and if you are so quick to put those buys down to simply a desire to stay in the top 4 rather then challenge for title, i could quite easily say utd spent all that money just to get back in the top 4 rather then to win title. we obviously weren't going to instantly win the title once we came out of the tight period, it was always going to take a few years of building but its getting there. right now we probably need a better gk and a top level striker from being able to challenge for the title.

You're wrong and what's more you must have your head in the sand.

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/sep/23/stan-kroenke-arsenal-dividend-fans-anger" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.theguardian.com/football/201 ... fans-anger</a>

And that's just dividends, the major shareholders at Arsenal have been earning huge salaries for doing nothing jobs on the board. Gazidis and Edelman have both been paid seven figure salaries for non existent roles and the expenses they've claimed would put a politician to shame.

 

[Manc in London]

I wouldn't agree with that simply based on the fact that those previous seasons has nothing to do with anything now or in the future. All that matters is who are the strongest teams now and really there isn't a huge amount in it between the top 3, the biggest gap is probably from that to utd. So if any other club was to suddenly get brought out and start buying superstars, you and chelsea would be just as vulnerable as us. We may not have finished in the top 2 for a few years but we've also finished in the top 4 for 15 years so if you are going to use any pattern, surely you should use that one of consistency.

I disagree. By extension, do you think that experience is irrelevant?

The fact that you have finished 3rd or 4th in the previous 10 seasons would indicate you are vulnerable if another team threatens the top 4. You have reached a glass ceiling and have not been able to break through it. With the same manager in place I do not see how you can break through it. You need more class. Although as you know, class cannot be purchased.