M18CTID
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deano ou812 said:Cheers m18ctid,it seems even then there was clubs up to no good,why does it not surprise me to see Utd and Liverpool involved...M18CTID said:deano ou812 said:Can anyone give a quick recap on the events to this?otherwise what did they do...
Here you go mate - you may not be surprised to know that Liverpool and United were also involved in this dubious saga:
"Norris's most infamous contribution to Arsenal's history was his role in the club's promotion from the Second Division to the First in 1919. Arsenal were elected to the top flight in spite of only finishing fifth the previous season (1914-15, as competition had been suspended for most of World War I). This promotion came at the expense of other clubs, most notably Arsenal's arch-rivals Tottenham Hotspur. It has been alleged that Norris bribed or in some way unduly influenced the voting members of the Football League, in particular the league chairman and owner of Liverpool, John McKenna; at the League's AGM, McKenna made a speech recommending Arsenal's promotion ahead of Spurs thanks to the former's longer spell in the League (Arsenal joined in 1893, Spurs in 1908. Although Preston North End & Wolves, who both finished ahead of Arsenal, had been members of the league longer than Arsenal, Wolves since its inception in 1888. Although no firm proof has ever been offered, Norris's other activities, including the scandal that led to his downfall, are often cited as circumstantial evidence. Some claim that Norris 'bribed' McKenna, although this is pure speculation. Probably more likely is that he lobbied McKenna, who fearful of Norris exposing the corruption in the league at the time (Utd and Liverpool were accused of fixing the last game of the season) yielded to Norris's request to promote Arsenal to Division 1 based on their longer spell in the league and their professional status."
Yep, it comes as little surprise. I will add of course that City weren't found to be whiter than white back then as we were implicated in the 1904-05 bribes scandal. However there is one huge difference - while we were punished for our perceived indiscretions, and so severely that we almost went out of business, Arsenal, Liverpool, and United were never punished for their roles in this little saga.