Arsenal Thread - 2022/23

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Manc in London said:
I don't think we can be sure they will perform better in the league as next season as they will have CL obligations and having gone trophyless again, I am not sure Gooners will accept limp performance in the domestic cup comps once more.

The feeling I had is that teams were sussing out Arsenal a bit towards the end of the season. They will need to find a few more wrinkles in their tactical approach for next season. Not sure how easy that will be with a young team. They will also have to adjust tactically as they will not be able to press to the same degree next season due to the extra games.

I think they will need to make significant strides, which are not are given, just to standstill in relation to fighting for the league.
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Champs league is often tough for everyone especially when you haven't built up for it. Could make or break 'em really. Im thinking break ...
 
VOOMER said:
If they were key, you wouldn't have folded, as only Saliba was missing.

And there we have the big old gooner gob, there are better players out there and other teams with cash to spend. If the barcodes,PSG, or Bayern offer £80 million Odegaard will be gone
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No he wouldnt, as as bid more than 80m for Mudryk. If we can part with 80m for Mudryk, then why would we consider 80m too much to turn down for Odegaard?
 
HumbledGooner said:
No he wouldnt, as as bid more than 80m for Mudryk. If we can part with 80m for Mudryk, then why would we consider 80m too much to turn down for Odegaard?
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I really like Odegaard as a player - I don't think he will leave either and i hope he doesn't. It takes a long time now to build a really strong title winning team. Arsenal are definitely going in the right direction. For all the moaning (and mine at times!) about Arteta's antics at times you must be pleased that he is displaying a desire to do well and demanding more and more from his players. You can only demand effort as a fan i feel. Good luck next season, its genuinely great seeing talented players like Odegaard have an influential role at the top end of the table.
 
Tolmie scores said:
I really like Odegaard as a player - I don't think he will leave either and i hope he doesn't. It takes a long time now to build a really strong title winning team. Arsenal are definitely going in the right direction. For all the moaning (and mine at times!) about Arteta's antics at times you must be pleased that he is displaying a desire to do well and demanding more and more from his players. You can only demand effort as a fan i feel. Good luck next season, its genuinely great seeing talented players like Odegaard have an influential role at the top end of the table.
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Not only that, were giving out contracts of around 300k to Saka. We had previously PEA on a contract of that magnitude even though in retrospect it was an error. Arteta is demanding more, & we appear to be becoming more aggressive and active in improving the playing group. Rumours Smith-Rowe and Nketiah might be sold this summer to make cash and make room for replacements. This has shocked me, as a few years ago no way would we have considered the sale of two good academy players. But Arteta seems to be striving to improve and raise not only our ceiling, but our floor.

My honest opinion is Saka, Odegaard and Martinelli couldnt be bought for less than 100m pounds at a minimum. I could see us turning down 130m for Saka if it were offered. Were not bidding 85m for Mudryk only to turn around and sell Saka for 100m. If we have 90m to buy Rice, we can say no to 100m for Odegaard.

This whole notion that this season was Arsenals sole chance to win the league is not true. We will keep knocking on the door & we are primed to make it happen if we get it right and things go our way
 
I've been having a think, and we must have been the perfect rival for you guys this season.
We were a good enough opponent to build up a lead, and to make you adjust a bit and focus enough to really start putting your foot down. But we were just soft enough so that when you applied the pressure we wilted a bit, and we didn't drain and tax you for the other competitions that perhaps a Liverpool of a couple of years ago might have.

So can we claim an assist for that?! ;-)

Congratulations on last night's game, don't think I've seen a Man City side with that strength and balance in all departments. That was scary watching.
 
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GunnerGer said:
I've been having a think, and we must have been the perfect rival for you guys this season.
We were a good enough opponent to build up a lead, and to make you adjust a bit and focus enough to really start putting your foot down. But we were just soft enough so that when you applied the pressure we wilted a bit, and we didn't drain and tax you for the other competitions that perhaps a Liverpool of a couple of years ago might have.

So can we claim an assist for that?! ;-)

Congratulations on last night's game, don't think I've seen a Man City side with that strength and balance in all departments. That was scary watching.
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All yours with an assist, I do think the meeja bang on about the title run in too much. I don't think it helps teams who listen to it. If Arteta blocked this out and just controlled what he could control i think you would have a better end to the season. Problem is, from the outside he and the team by default, seemed to get caught up in this since way back in Jan / Feb..far too early and far too much pressure. That makes players really tired...i think that has been a factor. Next year Arteta should keep his head down, stay level...all the best managers do but that comes with experience
 
GunnerGer said:
I've been having a think, and we must have been the perfect rival for you guys this season.
We were a good enough opponent to build up a lead, and to make you adjust a bit and focus enough to really start putting your foot down. But we were just soft enough so that when you applied the pressure we wilted a bit, and we didn't drain and tax you for the other competitions that perhaps a Liverpool of a couple of years ago might have.

So can we claim an assist for that?! ;-)

Congratulations on last night's game, don't think I've seen a Man City side with that strength and balance in all departments. That was scary watching.
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Lol - yes we seem to be in far better shape than the last time we got to the Champions League final where we were so depleted and tired towards the end of the season. Maybe instead of Tarquins you should be called "The Pacemakers"!

Thanks for the congratulations and kudos for being a level headed fan. I have been shocked at the vitriol directed at Arteta and the rest of the Arsenal management by the likes of Lee Gunner on Youtube who seems to want to throw away the progress that has been made by your club in the last couple of years.
 
Tolmie scores said:
All yours with an assist, I do think the meeja bang on about the title run in too much. I don't think it helps teams who listen to it. If Arteta blocked this out and just controlled what he could control i think you would have a better end to the season. Problem is, from the outside he and the team by default, seemed to get caught up in this since way back in Jan / Feb..far too early and far too much pressure. That makes players really tired...i think that has been a factor. Next year Arteta should keep his head down, stay level...all the best managers do but that comes with experience
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Yeah, i agree, think he used the emotions to help build the team up and help get the crowd involved and get that connection built up again which was good. But when it came to a time where you need to be calm and cold we were left wanting. I don't know if you seen this, found it insightful, and you can see the difference in mentality. Think a lot of that just comes down to know how & experience.



jamesha said:
Lol - yes we seem to be in far better shape than the last time we got to the Champions League final where we were so depleted and tired towards the end of the season. Maybe instead of Tarquins you should be called "The Pacemakers"!

Thanks for the congratulations and kudos for being a level headed fan. I have been shocked at the vitriol directed at Arteta and the rest of the Arsenal management by the likes of Lee Gunner on Youtube who seems to want to throw away the progress that has been made by your club in the last couple of years.
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Honestly, see guys like him and that plonker Ty, it's guys like these why i don't generalise full supports nowadays, because i don't think i've agreed with anything that comes out their mouths. It frustrates me when their clips get used as a way of thinking that's how all fans think.
 
HumbledGooner said:
No he wouldn't, as as bid more than 80m for Mudryk. If we can part with 80m for Mudryk, then why would we consider 80m too much to turn down for Odegaard?
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No one really knows who's coming through the academy at Arsenal. Why are teams waiting till players shine for Brighton before they show an interest.
You need a new right back, so White can play at CH and new left back and play Z in midfield. That's two players Hernandez at AC and Reece James. It will cost around £160-180 million for them but they would be worth it.
 
VOOMER said:
No one really knows who's coming through the academy at Arsenal. Why are teams waiting till players shine for Brighton before they show an interest.
You need a new right back, so White can play at CH and new left back and play Z in midfield. That's two players Hernandez at AC and Reece James. It will cost around £160-180 million for them but they would be worth it.
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Aye? Chelsea wouldn't sell us James in a million years, especially since he just penned a massive contract. As for White playing at centre half? Saliba and Gabriel are our pairing, White is now a categorical right back. I dont think Arteta will ever recruit a typical wingback ever again, he prefers our fullbacks to invert rather than overlap and with White being a centre half by trade its natural for him to tuck in. This is one of the reasons Tierney has fallen out of favour, he is a typical fullback.

We will chase two midfielders, two defenders, and a striker. But all the energy will go into midfield. Perfect scenario is a midfield of Rice, Caicedo, Odegaard
 
GunnerGer said:
Yeah, i agree, think he used the emotions to help build the team up and help get the crowd involved and get that connection built up again which was good. But when it came to a time where you need to be calm and cold we were left wanting. I don't know if you seen this, found it insightful, and you can see the difference in mentality. Think a lot of that just comes down to know how & experience.





Honestly, see guys like him and that plonker Ty, it's guys like these why i don't generalise full supports nowadays, because i don't think i've agreed with anything that comes out their mouths. It frustrates me when their clips get used as a way of thinking that's how all fans think.
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That Ty must be the most clueless supporter going.Arsenal tv I have nothing against Robbie but some of the clowns he has to get rid of as soon as possible.
That prick that shouted at his wife during a game should have been dropped straight away.
 
HumbledGooner said:
Aye? Chelsea wouldn't sell us James in a million years, especially since he just penned a massive contract. As for White playing at centre half? Saliba and Gabriel are our pairing, White is now a categorical right back. I dont think Arteta will ever recruit a typical wingback ever again, he prefers our fullbacks to invert rather than overlap and with White being a centre half by trade its natural for him to tuck in. This is one of the reasons Tierney has fallen out of favour, he is a typical fullback.

We will chase two midfielders, two defenders, and a striker. But all the energy will go into midfield. Perfect scenario is a midfield of Rice, Caicedo, Odegaard
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Is there any youngsters coming through.
 
VOOMER said:
No one really knows who's coming through the academy at Arsenal. Why are teams waiting till players shine for Brighton before they show an interest.
You need a new right back, so White can play at CH and new left back and play Z in midfield. That's two players Hernandez at AC and Reece James. It will cost around £160-180 million for them but they would be worth it.
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If Reece James could stay fit, he would be good for us. Physically so strong, quick and has very good feet. Also, he likes to defend 1 v 1 as well as attack, great asset IF he stays fit
Waste if he keeps up this injury record
 
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