Arsenal Thread | 2024/25

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What awful transgression did the refs commit today to deny Arsenal their rightful place as winner of everything? Not enough red cards given ? Should have been awarded 3 more penalties?
 
Not really sure what they're all crying about. You would think they've gone from winning everything to struggling, basically like us.

They've been winning fuck all anyway. Nothing has changed except Liverpool haven't given them chance to be frontrunners and bottle it again like the last couple of reasons. Apart from that, it's business as usual.

Imagine how these fannies would be in our position, going from winning trophies non stop to making it hard work of getting a CL spot.
 
Everyone saying how refreshing it was to have no VAR, but that Havertz penalty would surely have been reversed, possibly booked for diving, then got his second yellow for the handbags & another dive as he hit the deck from a sniper in the crowd.
 
Crooked_rain said:
Not really sure what they're all crying about. You would think they've gone from winning everything to struggling, basically like us.

They've been winning fuck all anyway. Nothing has changed except Liverpool haven't given them chance to be frontrunners and bottle it again like the last couple of reasons. Apart from that, it's business as usual.

Imagine how these fannies would be in our position, going from winning trophies non stop to making it hard work of getting a CL spot.
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Because they thought they were on the edge of ‘something’. The writing was utterly on the wall when they came to our gaff and not only played for a draw but totally wasted time in a way i have never seen a ‘top team’ do in 46 years of watching city.

A top team goes to their biggest rivals for the title and puts a marker down. “We are here to beat you and show you whos boss”.
Lego head just shit his pants and it of course cost them the title.
His over emotional way of coaching was never going to take them to that next level and now the fambludbro’s are getting edgy

Wonderful
 
They should change their shirt colours from red to yellow: that was an utterly spineless performance against ten-man relegation fodder.
Serious questions should be asked about Arteta's future, because to me there have been no noticeable signs of improvement in the last few years under his direction. They need a goalscorer, someone with the guile and the tenacity to be in the right place at the right time. Someone who can convert the chances they create - because in all fairness they are creating a lot of chances. But of course proven goalscorers are as rare as bottles of sun-tan lotion in Los Angeles right now. Instead they doubled Saka's workload and are now paying the price, giving them a couple of weeks to buy a stop-gap. Very wise.

But the real issue for me is how stagnant they have become. So overly-cautious and timid in going forward, Arteta has become another Southgate: no creativity in midfield, too many sideways passes, he has them playing as though they are frightened they may become infected by some ghastly virus if they get too close to the opposition's penalty area.

There are bottlers in football, then there are serious bottlers in football - and then there's Arsenal.
 
They reminded me of City in our slump from November, ponderous slow build up, zero belief and open to the counter. They’ve shown they haven’t learnt anything about resilience in winning games from missing out on the league the last two seasons. We get our act together we can certainly finish above this lot this season.
 
KentBlue said:
They should change their shirt colours from red to yellow: that was an utterly spineless performance against ten-man relegation fodder.
Serious questions should be asked about Arteta's future, because to me there have been no noticeable signs of improvement in the last few years under his direction. They need a goalscorer, someone with the guile and the tenacity to be in the right place at the right time. Someone who can convert the chances they create - because in all fairness they are creating a lot of chances. But of course proven goalscorers are as rare as bottles of sun-tan lotion in Los Angeles right now. Instead they doubled Saka's workload and are now paying the price, giving them a couple of weeks to buy a stop-gap. Very wise.

But the real issue for me is how stagnant they have become. So overly-cautious and timid in going forward, Arteta has become another Southgate: no creativity in midfield, too many sideways passes, he has them playing as though they are frightened they may become infected by some ghastly virus if they get too close to the opposition's penalty area.

There are bottlers in football, then there are serious bottlers in football - and then there's Arsenal.
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He surely can't stay if he fails to deliver the league this season. Sometimes the manager to get you close and the manager to tip you over the top are not the same. He's increasing looking like the former.
 
adrianr said:
He surely can't stay if he fails to deliver the league this season. Sometimes the manager to get you close and the manager to tip you over the top are not the same. He's increasing looking like the former.
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They've just had two second place finishes, and are competing again.

But if you have a look at their revenues, they're nowhere near where ourselves, Liverpool, and United are.

Since Arteta took over, they've had around £150 million less revenue per season than Liverpool, and the gap to City and United has grown to much more than that. Yet they've had two title chases, with points totals in the last two seasons that were higher than anything they've had in the last twenty years.

They've got their most competitive team since they last won a title, have a young team, and don't seem to dropping off in any particularly poor fashion, so I really don't understand why they're seen as failures.
 
Funny, one merry-go-round later, they ended up back with Wenger 2.0. Allergic to trophies, but constantly finishes high enough to second-guess moving on from him.


They probably need a proper striker, but I doubt Arteta will be the one pushing for it. He seems to be in love with the German giraffe.
 
bluenova said:
They've just had two second place finishes, and are competing again.

But if you have a look at their revenues, they're nowhere near where ourselves, Liverpool, and United are.

Since Arteta took over, they've had around £150 million less revenue per season than Liverpool, and the gap to City and United has grown to much more than that. Yet they've had two title chases, with points totals in the last two seasons that were higher than anything they've had in the last twenty years.

They've got their most competitive team since they last won a title, have a young team, and don't seem to dropping off in any particularly poor fashion, so I really don't understand why they're seen as failures.
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You are ignoring money spent within that and Arteta has spent a small fortune. Being competitive is the first steps, growing and then becoming winners is the next step, that step can start with a cup, a bit like us in 2011. We grew as a club, became competitive whilst winning a cup first, getting top 4 then challenging for titles. They are competing, spending a lot whilst not winning anything. Failure might be a stretch but he might have gone as far as he can take them
 
I think they have run out of ideas,I also think the last few seasons trying to get past us has now seen them starting to drop off,not to the levels we have but they are definitely dropping off in my opinion..
 
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