asault by grown men on kids waiting for a bus in ashton....

[talkativesprout]

I don't have to refute anything. I am not religious.

hard facts about gods are hard to come by, but he married a 9 yr old girl

BUT since you raised the accusing finger prove to me how Mohammed was a 'paedophile'?

And how did you come about this 'proof' outside of hand-me-down information?

Hard facts I shall accept as proof.

you want hard facts about a god / prophet. i could ask you the same question...

From the hadith of Bukhari, volume 5, #234

"Narrated Aisha: The prophet engaged me when I was a girl of six. We went to Medina and stayed at the home of Harith Kharzraj. Then I got ill and my hair fell down. Later on my hair grew (again) and my mother, Um Ruman, came to me while I was playing in a swing with some of my girl friends. She called me, and I went to her, not knowing what she wanted to do to me. She caught me by the hand and made me stand at the door of the house. I was breathless then, and when my breathing became all right, she took some water and rubbed my face and head with it. Then she took me into the house. There in the house I saw some Ansari women who said, "Best wishes and Allah's blessing and a good luck." Then she entrusted me to them and they prepared me (for the marriage). Unexpectedly Allah's messenger came to me in the forenoon and my mother handed me over to him, and at that time I was a girl of nine years of age."

Is this the only evidence you have??

paedophile

an adult who is sexually attracted to young children.

I am failing to see the 'proof'. What I do see is a traditional custom for betrothal of the time for that society. 'Traditional'/ 'custom'/ 'of the time'. Not one suggestion of 'lying together' to put it respectfully.

Are you suggesting that marriages of this type were not anywhere else even in Pagan times?

he had sex with a 9 yr old girl...and you are going to offer it was at a different time?

 

[Bigga]

you want hard facts about a god / prophet. i could ask you the same question...

From the hadith of Bukhari, volume 5, #234

"Narrated Aisha: The prophet engaged me when I was a girl of six. We went to Medina and stayed at the home of Harith Kharzraj. Then I got ill and my hair fell down. Later on my hair grew (again) and my mother, Um Ruman, came to me while I was playing in a swing with some of my girl friends. She called me, and I went to her, not knowing what she wanted to do to me. She caught me by the hand and made me stand at the door of the house. I was breathless then, and when my breathing became all right, she took some water and rubbed my face and head with it. Then she took me into the house. There in the house I saw some Ansari women who said, "Best wishes and Allah's blessing and a good luck." Then she entrusted me to them and they prepared me (for the marriage). Unexpectedly Allah's messenger came to me in the forenoon and my mother handed me over to him, and at that time I was a girl of nine years of age."

Is this the only evidence you have??

paedophile

an adult who is sexually attracted to young children.

I am failing to see the 'proof'. What I do see is a traditional custom for betrothal of the time for that society. 'Traditional'/ 'custom'/ 'of the time'. Not one suggestion of 'lying together' to put it respectfully.

Are you suggesting that marriages of this type were not anywhere else even in Pagan times?

he had sex with a 9 yr old girl...and you are going to offer it was at a different time?

I have asked for proof, but you have failed and are making yourself look highly foolish.

I am asking for a simple thing; proof and I shall concur.

 

[talkativesprout]

Is this the only evidence you have??



I am failing to see the 'proof'. What I do see is a traditional custom for betrothal of the time for that society. 'Traditional'/ 'custom'/ 'of the time'. Not one suggestion of 'lying together' to put it respectfully.

Are you suggesting that marriages of this type were not anywhere else even in Pagan times?

he had sex with a 9 yr old girl...and you are going to offer it was at a different time?

I have asked for proof, but you have failed and are making yourself look highly foolish.

I am asking for a simple thing; proof and I shall concur.

OWNED

 

[bennyblue]

Didn't want to start a new thread as the topic I am speaking on has been raised in here.

So has anybody seen the news tonight?

Shamed Imams finally speaking out about child abuse in sermons spread across the country.

A Muslim girl speaking out about her Muslim attackers.

No proof of child abuse and Islam directly linked.

White men are the main culprits.

It seems the more rational minded of us could see this coming...

not sure where this is going but are you quoting about an individual case ?

 

[Bigga]

he had sex with a 9 yr old girl...and you are going to offer it was at a different time?

I have asked for proof, but you have failed and are making yourself look highly foolish.

I am asking for a simple thing; proof and I shall concur.

OWNED

LOL!! What the actual fuck??!!

I am going regret this but... Explain...

Didn't want to start a new thread as the topic I am speaking on has been raised in here.

So has anybody seen the news tonight?

Shamed Imams finally speaking out about child abuse in sermons spread across the country.

A Muslim girl speaking out about her Muslim attackers.

No proof of child abuse and Islam directly linked.

White men are the main culprits.

It seems the more rational minded of us could see this coming...

not sure where this is going but are you quoting about an individual case ?

No, there were a multiple attacks going on in the thread and I addressed them as a multiple.

You will have to thread the whole thread, I guess.

Don't blame you if you don't!!

 

[bennyblue]

I have asked for proof, but you have failed and are making yourself look highly foolish.

I am asking for a simple thing; proof and I shall concur.

OWNED

LOL!! What the actual fuck??!!

I am going regret this but... Explain...

Didn't want to start a new thread as the topic I am speaking on has been raised in here.

So has anybody seen the news tonight?

Shamed Imams finally speaking out about child abuse in sermons spread across the country.

A Muslim girl speaking out about her Muslim attackers.

No proof of child abuse and Islam directly linked.

White men are the main culprits.

It seems the more rational minded of us could see this coming...

not sure where this is going but are you quoting about an individual case ?

No, there were a multiple attacks going on in the thread and I addressed them as a multiple.

You will have to thread the whole thread, I guess.

Don't blame you if you don't!!

Not at all bigga have kept a reasonable eye on this thread maybe not read every post but i have seen how you have had to defend your position on numerous occasions, its the white men are main culprits that rests a little uneasy on me,
are you suggesting thats as a whole in terms of colour then yeah the facts are true, however if the numbers are compared to the numbers per race than it would suggest there is a greater proportion of ethnic minorities committing this type of crime compared to white men as youve suggested in your post or as to i have read it, if i have read that wrong or in the wrong context forgive me.

 

[Bigga]

OWNED

LOL!! What the actual fuck??!!

I am going regret this but... Explain...

not sure where this is going but are you quoting about an individual case ?

No, there were a multiple attacks going on in the thread and I addressed them as a multiple.

You will have to thread the whole thread, I guess.

Don't blame you if you don't!!

Not at all bigga have kept a reasonable eye on this thread maybe not read every post but i have seen how you have had to defend your position on numerous occasions, its the white men are main culprits that rests a little uneasy on me,
are you suggesting thats as a whole in terms of colour then yeah the facts are true, however if the numbers are compared to the numbers per race than it would suggest there is a greater proportion of ethnic minorities committing this type of crime compared to white men as youve suggested in your post or as to i have read it, if i have read that wrong or in the wrong context forgive me.

If I glance back at what I had written in brief, it will read as 'White men are the guilty party' when in essence I am merely paraphrasing the the news item. I would also add that I neglected to enter that an interviewee's opinion was that it was a MALE problem more than cultural. I will not say that some idiots used 'culture' as a reason, but that is mainly an excuse to commit the crimes as a 'justification'. But some cannot see through the muddied water. Proof of this comes with interview with the abused Muslim girl.

I doubt the people already hating the Islamic faith will see this and the guilty Muslims have done their faith no favours, at all. Your assessment of proportion may well be true, but I suggest this has only been a recent event and most likely 'copy cat' rather than habit. I have no proof as there are no records available as far as I know.

The fact that "White men are the main culprits" are because they are the indigenous race. I don't see the problem with that realisation.

 

[MadchesterCity]

Is this the only evidence you have??



I am failing to see the 'proof'. What I do see is a traditional custom for betrothal of the time for that society. 'Traditional'/ 'custom'/ 'of the time'. Not one suggestion of 'lying together' to put it respectfully.

Are you suggesting that marriages of this type were not anywhere else even in Pagan times?

he had sex with a 9 yr old girl...and you are going to offer it was at a different time?

I have asked for proof, but you have failed and are making yourself look highly foolish.

I am asking for a simple thing; proof and I shall concur.

He gave you proof

 

[Bigga]

he had sex with a 9 yr old girl...and you are going to offer it was at a different time?

I have asked for proof, but you have failed and are making yourself look highly foolish.

I am asking for a simple thing; proof and I shall concur.

He gave you proof

Are you two stupid??

Since when does an arranged marriage of custom prove sexual attraction?? And, in that text, where does it say he lay down with her at 9 years of age??

Unreal...

 

[MadchesterCity]

I have asked for proof, but you have failed and are making yourself look highly foolish.

I am asking for a simple thing; proof and I shall concur.

He gave you proof

Are you two stupid??

Since when does an arranged marriage of custom prove sexual attraction?? And, in that text, where does it say he lay down with her at 9 years of age??

Unreal...

Too and two and yes you are, how can you back that, crazy sicko!!!