Not necessarily.If a person chooses to end their life due to the concern for others then they are absolutely being coerced into a decision.
If their reason for choosing to end their life is for no other reason than to prevent relatives suffering they are not making that decision for themselves.
This is no different than someone choosing to end their life do their kid can inherit their money sooner - it’s purely based on other peoples needs and not theirs.
Self-coercion is also the issue, when an elderly or infirm person perceives these fundamental changes in the law as a social pressure and opts to use them "to make way" and perhaps decrease what they see as the burden they place on others or maybe enable their family to benefit earlier from a legacy.It might be misguided but isn’t necessarily evidence of coercion, that would imply pressure from family or others rather than making a decision bars on what it’s thought they might want
Well yes that is another issue. Even without this potential change in the law there will be people who already feel a burden on their families despite being reassured that they aren’t.Self-coercion is also the issue, when an elderly or infirm person perceives these fundamental changes in the law as a social pressure and opts to use them "to make way" and perhaps decrease what they see as the burden they place on others or maybe enable their family to benefit earlier from a legacy.
The key point is that state assisted suicide is a new pathway that will be inappropriately chosen by many vulnerable people and indeed exploited by others. There are no practical safeguards that can effectively prevent this outcome.Well yes that is another issue. Even without this potential change in the law there will be people who already feel a burden on their families despite being reassured that they aren’t.
And there will be carers who do feel their ill or dependent relatives are a burden. It’s the nature of it.
Which further illuminates the grip religion has, and has had, on people throughout history.I'm not sure believing 90% of the current world population and 99.9% of those who have ever lived have weak minds would be comfort. Being a 'good' person for most relies on their being some source of value outside their own choice of meaning in the matter - the examples you give are cases in point.
You are talking bollocks , this is for terminal patients with six month to live , it is two doctors and a judge , the safeguards are fineThe key point is that state assisted suicide is a new pathway that will be inappropriately chosen by many vulnerable people and indeed exploited by others. There are no practical safeguards that can effectively prevent this outcome.
Much as state laws require inappropriate pain and suffering due to “advanced” medical care that can keep the essentially dead alive. Without consent decrees to not aid them, which many people do not have because “it’ll never happen to me” or they simply couldn’t afford the legal paperwork before it happened, they are forced to succumb to someone else’s standard of care.The key point is that state assisted suicide is a new pathway that will be inappropriately chosen by many vulnerable people and indeed exploited by others. There are no practical safeguards that can effectively prevent this outcome.
Bollocks!The key point is that state assisted suicide is a new pathway that will be inappropriately chosen by many vulnerable people and indeed exploited by others. There are no practical safeguards that can effectively prevent this outcome.
There is no “always” in my argument, and it’s impossible to ignore religions influence on the anti-argument. It may not be your anti-argument, but it exists in great measure in any discussion of assisted suicide/death.You rail against the myth of god but happily pedal this myth of people always die in pain and abject misery?
Herein lay the problem with this debate - it’s littered with the ill informed using their own beliefs or personal experiences extrapolate some universal truism that simply doesn’t exist.
I’ve no problem with people having the right to choose - however if we keep peddling this lie then everyone with a life limiting illness will think they are going to die in pain and abject misery and a lot are going to unnecessarily opt for this and lose precious time on this planet - of which we all only get one go at. Unless the religious folk are right but I’m not getting in to that!!